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What are your thoughts? Ok to use as is with new rings or overbore or replace? TIA.
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does it catch a fingernail? you can always run a ball hone over it if it does.

what cylinder is that? I had to ask.
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Honda moped? It looks like what was on my Express SR.

Or maybe an Suzuki FA50?

If Honda, order a "B" piston and hone it.
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the ball hones are great but once you get too much clearance it's over. that's what happened on my Malossi 166 kit - I cleaned it up great but then it was piston slapping so hard that it needed to go first over. not too much work to try and clean it up though.
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Honda NC50. In signature. Honda Express, same cylinder as Express SR.
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Here's a bad influence:

https://www.treatland.tv/SearchResults.asp?Search=Nc50

Treats is a great stateside source for moped/moped parts.
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So, if I hone out the scratches and can keep the ring end gap in spec, I'm ok with the standard piston size? And yes, its an NC50.
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it will be ring gap and piston to bore that say you made it or you failed
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So many modes of failure, so few IQ points. Thanks. More to follow.
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Give it a quick bone with the ball hone, bud.
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orwell84 wrote:
Give it a quick bone with the ball hone, bud.
Same here, and replace rings.

Insert new ring into the cylinder, push it down a few inches using the piston upside down, to makes sure the ring is straight, then measure the open gap of the ring with a filler gauge et check if within factory specs
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Same here, and replace rings.

Insert new ring into the cylinder, push it down a few inches using the piston upside down, to makes sure the ring is straight, then measure the open gap of the ring with a filler gauge et check if within factory specs
Also should measure piston to cylinder wall clearance, to much and piston will rattle in cylinder.
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Thanks guys for all of the insights. Hoping to get to it this weekend.
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I ran a 240 grit ball hone through and while I can still see the scratches I can't feel them. No glaze anymore and a nice 45 degree crosshatching now. Installed new rings, clips and gaskets. The piston diameter, cylinder bore and ring gap are all within specs. Going to run a compression test later today. Fingers crossed.
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Hone looks great. Text book cross hatch. That should do it.
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There's a real good chance that will work. Nice hone job!

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