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Can we talk numbers here? How much is it? I love running the numbers!

What I got was an average of around $2,500 a year for me (65m) and this is for the cheap policy where the high co-pay and deductible. This is with the free Medicare part A hospitilization.

And this is in 2024. Among the things leading the way that have recently risen in price is health care and I think it would be unreasonable not to expect that to continue. Also most of the policies have limits. I think it not unreasonable to exceed those limits when one is diagnosed with stage 4 cancer at 83 years old.

I think the one that really gets you though is when you need some sort of long term care and can no longer live alone. And even if you can stay in your house and have to have home visits exceeding your insurance limits then the Medicaid Estate recovery plan for your state kicks in...

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/nevadas-medicaid-estate-recovery-program.html

And then just inflation. Even if you do not have big expenses with medical issues in older age I think the only way out of the financial debt in the developed world is to pay it back with inflated dollars.

They will try to control inflation and not let it run rampant but they need inflation to some degree just because of a huge amount of debt.

Then finally there is a great deal of insecurity with whatever your retirement might come from for the average Joe. I am not talking about people with high net worth I am talking about people relying on meager 401K, some sort of pension, and social security. All of the above mentioned are subject to the next downturn in the stock market. 2008 happened because of collateralized debt obligations on residential mortgages. What will the super genius's on Wall st think of next?
If you are over 65, you can choose Medicare Part A (with a cost) and Part B, or you can choose Part C, aka a Medicare Advantage plan. Part C comes with no cost to you, and includes dental and eye coverage, with some limits. Part C is what Mrs Syd and I have and we are quite happy with it. It's almost like working, but better.
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AWS is pissing me off today.

Sane, rational programmers:
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Amazon AWS "programmers":
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      LaunchTemplateId: !Ref launchTemplate
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If you can't spot the difference, don't feel bad -- I couldn't either, and it cost me about a day of hair-pulling.

Jeebus.
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AWS is pissing me off today.

Sane, rational programmers:
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Amazon AWS "programmers":
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If you can't spot the difference, don't feel bad -- I couldn't either, and it cost me about a day of hair-pulling.

Jeebus.
What's an Id? I mean, I know ego, superego, id, but, wait, is that what they meant to mean...?
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jess wrote:
AWS is pissing me off today.

Sane, rational programmers:
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Amazon AWS "programmers":
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      Version: !GetAtt launchTemplate.LatestVersionNumber
If you can't spot the difference, don't feel bad -- I couldn't either, and it cost me about a day of hair-pulling.

Jeebus.
Lower case d, how dare them! I don't know how you keep things going but thank you for MV. You've made my life easier and the people here are amazing. Rob
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ID vs Id is all I see. But I don't understand OOP
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But I don't understand OOP
It's not OOP, it's YAML.

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It's not OOP, it's YAML.

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My eyes just glazed over.

I honestly don't know how you do it.

Many salutes.
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My eyes just glazed over.
Oh, I'm not immune from MEGO (Mine Eyes Glazeth Over). I look at things all the time and can't fathom what's going on.

But when I really need to understand something, I have to force myself to scan it for clues. Then scan it again. Then go back to the top and really start reading through it.

Days later, when exhaustion has set in, I might even have a vague idea what I'm looking at.

But it's a battle every step of the way.
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I had to lookup YAML. YAML ain't Markup Language. Gnu-ish, I see. And yet, I don't.
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And the Kymco breaks its throttle cable.

Called the dealership.

Walked home.

An hour later I get a discounted offer from a Breakdown Company.

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I had to lookup YAML. YAML ain't Markup Language. Gnu-ish, I see. And yet, I don't.
YAML is an alternative to JSON.

(I'm not even being funny here -- tech is littered with TLAs [Three Letter Acronyms] and non-conforming TLAs [four-letter acronyms] and has been as long as I can remember.)

Both JSON and YAML are used for data interchange -- data structures -- in a human-readable form. But where JSON is mostly used to communicate data structures from one machine to another, YAML is useful for communicating data structures from a human to a computer.

Put another way, writing JSON by hand is fiddly, whereas writing YAML by hand is... well, slightly less fiddly. But only a little bit.

I'm using YAML to specify exactly how I want the server to be built -- what hardware, what architecture, what OS, how much memory, how much storage (and what kind of storage), what configuration, the IP addresses and security settings, what packages I want installed, how I want those packages arranged, every single detail. Right down to what color I want the command prompt to be when I log in via SSH.

That YAML is literally just a single text file (albeit a very long one). I feed that into Amazon AWS's gaping maw and it builds a server based on that YAML specification. I log in, inspect it, find something I forgot or still haven't specified yet, tear down that server, and start again.
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Yesterday I discovered one drawback to having my desk where it is in the corner of the production room.

There's an AC vent that blast cold air right on me.

For now, it sucks.

Come summer, I'm hoping it's nice.
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I had a similar situation, and was miserable for a couple of months. Got no help from supervision, so one night I snuck in and grabbed a convenient ladder, and shut the damper to that branch of the ducting. Success!, and no repercussions.
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There's an AC vent that blast cold air right on me.
A strategically placed piece of cardboard, some string, and some tape would redirect the flow away from you.

This is your chance at creative thinking.
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A strategically placed piece of cardboard, some string, and some tape would redirect the flow away from you.
Isn't that standard equipment in any modern built by the lowest tender office?
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A strategically placed piece of cardboard, some string, and some tape would redirect the flow away from you.

This is your chance at creative thinking.
My Director would flip her shit if I did that.

We just finished the remodel of this room. Having a rigged up deflector on the ceiling like that, especially one clearly visible from the main entrance, would NOT look good.

Luckily, last Fall she bought everyone a Columbia full-zip fleece with the department logo embroidered on it. I keep mine on the back of my chair, so I can easily put it on if I get chilly.
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jess wrote:
YAML is an alternative to JSON.

(I'm not even being funny here -- tech is littered with TLAs [Three Letter Acronyms] and non-conforming TLAs [four-letter acronyms] and has been as long as I can remember.)

Both JSON and YAML are used for data interchange -- data structures -- in a human-readable form. But where JSON is mostly used to communicate data structures from one machine to another, YAML is useful for communicating data structures from a human to a computer.

Put another way, writing JSON by hand is fiddly, whereas writing YAML by hand is... well, slightly less fiddly. But only a little bit.

I'm using YAML to specify exactly how I want the server to be built -- what hardware, what architecture, what OS, how much memory, how much storage (and what kind of storage), what configuration, the IP addresses and security settings, what packages I want installed, how I want those packages arranged, every single detail. Right down to what color I want the command prompt to be when I log in via SSH.

That YAML is literally just a single text file (albeit a very long one). I feed that into Amazon AWS's gaping maw and it builds a server based on that YAML specification. I log in, inspect it, find something I forgot or still haven't specified yet, tear down that server, and start again.
Thanks, Jess. yaml=server config. Cool.
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A strategically placed piece of cardboard, some string, and some tape would redirect the flow away from you.

This is your chance at creative thinking.
A guy at work used a large triangular piece of cardboard on top of the cube wall to block the annoying light above. Cardboard is a fine, abundant, working material.
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HEIC/HEIF is pissing me off today. It's been available on iOS for... 5 years? Something like that. And you all want to use it, whether you know it or not, since it's usually the default for the images you snap on your iPhones.

But for reasons that escape me, HEIC/HEIF support on Linux is abysmal. And it's really starting to be a problem. I've spent the better part of the last two days just getting a version of ImageMagick built (from source!) on the new Linux distribution that we'll be using for our next server. Just so I can convert all the iPhone photos to something that works on all browsers.

It just shouldn't be this hard.
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I'm sorry to report that's it's your former employer's desire to own the territory that causes this problem.

Me, I'd just not even entertain accommodating it.

Just as bad as effin' Mickeysoft's attempts at email with 'outlook' that demolished all previous attempts at creating an agreed version of how email should work. And here we are.
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I'm sorry to report that's it's your former employer's desire to own the territory that causes this problem.
I get where you're coming from, but HEIC is not Apple's doing. It's an industry standard, put forth by a well-respected standards body, and is even supported (somewhat) by Android.

And there is support for HEIC on Linux. ImageMagick (which is free and open source) supports it, and ImageMagick is the gold standard for image conversion on Linux.

The problem is that the version of ImageMagick that supports it hasn't been widely adopted by Linux distributions, nor have the various fragmented-to-smithereens package managers adopted it. Which means I have to go through the arduous process of checking out not just the source for ImageMagick, but all of the various packages that it depends on, and build each one of them from source. Which versions of the sources? Who knows?!? Pick one and cross your fingers.

There's plenty to blame Apple for, and I'll even agree with most of it. I genuinely don't think this is one of those things.
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Reviews For Everything

Anything and everything you do online nowadays is followed by being pestered for reviews!

I recently used the NHS (National Health Service) app to change my address, and at the end was asked to review the app, so I just wrote Good

So now they've replied Fab! We like to hear that, thank you.

Where the hell did Fab! come from? I never said it was Fab! (it wasn't Fab! by the way).

I mean, how about if I die and they put He thought the NHS app was Fab! on my headstone!

aaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
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I no longer have kids

Well technically I have two daughters but the youngest one is going to her 1st party where she will be drinking alcohol rather than pop.

I can't see her drinking the 4 cans of cider her mother bought for her as I don't think she has had a full alcoholic drink in her life, but her days as a child looks to be over.
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Reviews For Everything

Anything and everything you do online nowadays is followed by being pestered for reviews!

I recently used the NHS (National Health Service) app to change my address, and at the end was asked to review the app, so I just wrote Good

So now they've replied Fab! We like to hear that, thank you.

Where the hell did Fab! come from? I never said it was Fab! (it wasn't Fab! by the way).

I mean, how about if I die and they put He thought the NHS app was Fab! on my headstone!

aaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
Our dealership asked for a review for our last service. Our last service was to fix something they did wrong during the previous service. The previous service was for a factory recall for something they did wrong at assembly.

They really don't WANT that review.
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I no longer have kids

Well technically I have two daughters but the youngest one is going to her 1st party where she will be drinking alcohol rather than pop.

I can't see her drinking the 4 cans of cider her mother bought for her as I don't think she has had a full alcoholic drink in her life, but her days as a child looks to be over.
Trust me, they're always your 'kids' when they want to be
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Phone stores.

I personally never deal with them. I've been fortunate (careful) and have never broken a phone. I had a Nokia 5110 that was indestructible, a Motorola Razr and then iPhones. I've never had a phone fail to work. The only time I've upgraded was when the previous iPhone was simply un-updatable. Most of them I still have, and they still power up. This isn't braggadocio, it's just to show how little I deal with cell phone stores.

Now the gripe. I have an old friend who is of very little means. She doesn't own a car, but she's worked hard, paid off her house and been able to retire. The phone she's had for several years is an LG Trac Phone. I find it ironic that the message that pops up on the startup screen is "Life's Good", when you are clearly using a $30 Trac Phone. Anyway, recently the phone crapped out on her. She took the phone to "a phone store" and they evaluated it, told her there was nothing they could do and sold her another phone with a new number.

I'm beyond chastising her for not backing things up, but she didn't have anything backed up. So, she asked me for help. At work this morning, I popped the battery out of the phone and popped it back in and guess what. The phone is fine.

They could tell at the phone store that she needed help. They could have done as much. It wouldn't have taken ten minutes.

We'll get it sorted, and she has a new phone, but for Pete's sake.
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This is making me sad more than it's pissing me off.

I learned yesterday that we're no longer going to be doing outside orders at work.

I work in the printing department of a public school district. When I was hired, I was told that we were set up to be able to do outside work, but were limited in how much profit we could make. I reached out to a couple of clients at my previous job, and two of them moved their print work to us.

Last year, my new director informed me that there has been discussions about ending that policy, and switching to internal-only. She wanted to give me a heads-up about it, so that I could let the two clients know. One of them shifted some of their work back to their old vendor (my previous employer), but kept a large portion with us. The other only prints one job per year, so it wasn't as much of a big deal.

Yesterday I was informed that the change is taking place as of July 1.

I contacted the smaller client and discussed it with her. She'll take her order back to the old vendor. I spoke with my friend who runs the location she'd take it to and learned that the client has rectified their financial situation (they'd filed for bankruptcy protection, and had been required to pay for their jobs up front), so it was all good with him.

My contact at the other client is currently out of town at an event (they are event planners), so we'll talk about it either this afternoon or tomorrow.

I've worked with that client since 2011, and got to produce some very cool things for them. I'll miss that.
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Phone stores.

I personally never deal with them. I've been fortunate (careful) and have never broken a phone. I had a Nokia 5110 that was indestructible, a Motorola Razr and then iPhones. I've never had a phone fail to work. The only time I've upgraded was when the previous iPhone was simply un-updatable. Most of them I still have, and they still power up. This isn't braggadocio, it's just to show how little I deal with cell phone stores.

Now the gripe. I have an old friend who is of very little means. She doesn't own a car, but she's worked hard, paid off her house and been able to retire. The phone she's had for several years is an LG Trac Phone. I find it ironic that the message that pops up on the startup screen is "Life's Good", when you are clearly using a $30 Trac Phone. Anyway, recently the phone crapped out on her. She took the phone to "a phone store" and they evaluated it, told her there was nothing they could do and sold her another phone with a new number.

I'm beyond chastising her for not backing things up, but she didn't have anything backed up. So, she asked me for help. At work this morning, I popped the battery out of the phone and popped it back in and guess what. The phone is fine.

They could tell at the phone store that she needed help. They could have done as much. It wouldn't have taken ten minutes.

We'll get it sorted, and she has a new phone, but for Pete's sake.
There are those who prefer the grift instead of a valued customer for life!

We call them shysters over here.
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I really think it would be better of you left work.
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Bill Dog wrote:
I really think it would be better of you left work.
If this is in reference to me, I've said before that "pissing me off" is a much more extreme phrase when describing my attitude towards where I work.

I'm usually disappointed, or mildly annoyed.

I've also said before that I love my job for a variety of reasons:
● I get paid very well. If I were to leave here, I'd be lucky to find a job that paid even 75% of what I'm paid here.
● I get a lot of paid time off. Most print shops in the area only close on the major holidays, so 7-10 per year. Here I get 19 paid holidays per year.
● I work 8 hours per day, 5 days per week. Occasionally we'll work overtime, but it's rare, like 2 or 3 times per year.
● I work M-F, 7am to 4pm. Most shops will be open until 6pm or later, and might have Saturday hours.

Over the years I've learned that anywhere I work there are going to be people that are difficult to get along with, and situations that will require "going with the flow" to get through them. I've learned to just deal with it. Venting here helps me to deal with it.
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But the majority of your complaints emanate from work.

You don't think that you'd be a lot happier somewhere else ?
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Bill Dog wrote:
But the majority of your complaints emanate from work.

You don't think that you'd be a lot happier somewhere else ?
I understand monogodo's position on this. Personally, I HATE my job. My work is exceedingly dull, unappreciated by those around me, and is a task that has no long term chance of success (I work in cyber security). But my employer is wonderful. I get excellent benefits, the flexibility to set my own schedule, a generous defined benefit pension plan, an exceptional amount of paid vacation time (by North American standards at least), and I'm paid well enough that I can afford some serious enjoyment of my non-work hours. For the 35 hours a week that I'm doing my job, I'd probably be happier somewhere else. But the rest of the time, I'll enjoy the fruits of my boring labour with a prominent grin on my face. And thanks to that defined benefit pension plan, I'll retire from the job earlier than I could on my own.
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I get excellent benefits, the flexibility to set my own schedule, a generous defined benefit pension plan, an exceptional amount of paid vacation time (by North American standards at least), and I'm paid well enough that I can afford some serious enjoyment of my non-work hours.
That's saying something in this day and age. Genuinely.
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But the majority of your complaints emanate from work.

You don't think that you'd be a lot happier somewhere else ?
Before I retired I hated my job with every fiber of my being. I have seen this in his rants for the past few years. Dude, you don't realize it but you NEED to move on. Your job IS consuming your life.

Bob
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I'm sad to hear of people hating their jobs. I loved mine while it lasted - basically being paid very well for doing a hobby! Plus that defined benefit pension - Deity bless it. Back in the 1970's, looking for a job always included checking out the offered pension scheme - the miserly ones were avoided.
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I appreciate that I'm probably coming over as being over simplistic but if you consistently complain about a circumstance that makes you unhappy, yet you steadfastly refuse to change things people will eventually stop listening.

Granted there are some individuals that will complain no matter what but if your job or relationship vexes you so much that it's the only thing you talk about, then leave.

I appreciate that complaining is easier than resolving your frustrations but much of it is borne from a need to court moral support or affirmation rather than seek concrete advice to resolve a problem.
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