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But that's only a couple months away, how about the Super Bowl?
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Gold.

OK in today's edition of ET3 headset weirdness:

The M5 x 50mm screw that mounts the speedometer bracket is a good 15mm short.

I thought I had a bunk repop bracket... ya know "Grade A Perfect Repair"... but I even pulled the speedo off my Primavera, and with an OG piaaggio bracket had the same issue. There is no way the M5 50mm screw will work.
*start 60's TV cliffhanger Voice*
Is there another piece to the ET3 speedometer bracket? Is the ET3 headset larger than other smallies? Will just running down a m5 70mm solve the problem?
I am not anywhere near my garage but if you can wait wil Thursday I can take some measurements of my original screw for yeh Speedo.
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I have been insulted.
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I am not anywhere near my garage but if you can wait wil Thursday I can take some measurements of my original screw for yeh Speedo.
That would be awesome! Thx. Please post a pic too so I can see what your set up is, if you dont mind.

(I ordered some m5 75mm screws so we will see if that does the trick.)
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burn....

I think he can make the all star game, I'd wager some ham on it even.
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double or nuthin' moons over my hammy!
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Alright… get on the list!

Double or nuffins!
All star game first pitch.

Btw… greasy found the perfect gif for this build…


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This is kind of like those tournaments where the 3 and 4 teams play the consolation match, I think. But I like it.

I got at least a can of spam and a package of Oscar Meyer bologna that says you make it.
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I think I could get my Et3 on the road by 16 July. Found a guy to sort out my Legshield issue. I have left it so long since importing it to Australia that I now need to get import approval again on the new system so I can register it.
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I wanna talk about that awesome pigeon trap.
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I think I could get my Et3 on the road by 16 July. Found a guy to sort out my Legshield issue. I have left it so long since importing it to Australia that I now need to get import approval again on the new system so I can register it.
do I smell a ham bet?
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I wanna talk about that awesome pigeon trap.
🙂
needs more billet... some radial bearings for smoother action, a tight return spring... oh, maybe air activation!
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do I smell a ham bet?
There may be a whiff of a carcinogenic meat product in there somewhere!!
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I know the lid is stamped "ACME, ET3 TRAP" but if you do a little research that is a just a subsidiary for Schnakenberg Financial LLC of Norcross Georgia.
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That would be awesome! Thx. Please post a pic too so I can see what your set up is, if you dont mind.

(I ordered some m5 75mm screws so we will see if that does the trick.)
Original Speedo screw
Original Speedo screw
The washers and parts I have for my et3 gear and accelerator tubes. Wavy washer , 1 mm washer and then a thicker 2-3 mm washer
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pigeon holed
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That's a whole different thing.
Illegal in most Western states
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Illegal in most Western states
which is exactly why Kajiit Koin & Kasino is an offshore establishment! hookers, black jack, monkey knife fights and betting lines on cheese rolling all under one roof, on separate decks! VIP lounge! personal ham vaults! expired gift card exchange-- great rates!
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which is exactly why Kajiit Koin & Kasino is an offshore establishment! hookers, black jack, monkey knife fights and betting lines on cheese rolling all under one roof, on separate decks! VIP lounge! personal ham vaults! expired gift card exchange-- great rates!
you had me at "mokney knife fights"
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Original Speedo screw….

The washers and parts I have for my et3 gear and accelerator tubes. Wavy washer , 1 mm washer and then a thicker 2-3 mm was
Thanks for this!

Both pictures confirm my set up.
Hopefully this 411 will help someone down the road.
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which is exactly why Kajiit Koin & Kasino is an offshore establishment! hookers, black jack, monkey knife fights and betting lines on cheese rolling all under one roof, on separate decks! VIP lounge! personal ham vaults! expired gift card exchange-- great rates!
Bottle service in VIP involves lumpy room temp queso and finger foods of suspect origin... still…recommend.



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So... one would *think* Piaggio would leave the whackado, balanced-6V wiring system in the 1960's. One would be wrong.

One might think I'd upgrade to a variable 12V EI instead of the maddening balanced-6V wiring system in the 1960's. ... One would again be wrong.

What I wanna do is run the 6v system with a voltage regulator spliced in for the lights. So, this begs the question... where to mount it and how to properly marry it into the wiring system.
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/voltage-regulator-sip_85154000

Check out the fine wiring diagram below.

My thought (probably incorrect) is to take a wire and connect it at the junction box with the yellow off the stator. Then run this to the VR (mounted somewhere like under the tank or in the glove box?) Then, run the wiring looms yellow wire for the taillight and yellow for the headlight out of the VR to their respective destinations. And also, of course, grounding the VR... and thus preventing the system from the balanced bulb bullshittery of bygone days....

What am I missing? Surly something?

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I've converted "Balanced" systems over to regulated a few times now. If you're going to keep the OG 6V, you could honestly just skip the entire process, because the lights are all worthless anyway. Razz emoticon

Seriously, though, you just need to:
1) replace any Normally Closed switches (e.g. the rear brake) with Normally Open
2) Bond the pilot/tail/speedo/brake (basically, everything but the headlight and horn) at the junction box
3) connect the bonded circuits to the regulator
4) connect the AC out from the stator's tail light circuit to the regulator.

Hide the regulator inside the tank cavity, like you said.

That'll protect all the bulbs that actually blow in a balanced system. The headlight will still be its old, unregulated self, but since it never gets enough power to blow the bulb anyway, you don't need to worry about that.
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Have the very same set up on my PV. Even have an ET3 harness.

I mounted a tiny one-wire regulator under the tank.

https://www.treatland.tv/yamaha-FS1-6V-regulator-p/yamaha-fs1-6v-regulator.htm

The single yellow wire from the regulator runs to yellow in the junction box and regulates the pilot, tail, speedo bulb circuit.
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Chandlerman… the eT3 is already EI no switchero required on the brake/horn etc.

Just need to balance the voltage on the lighting coil to the lights.

Mike, so you just connect that VR yellow to the yellows at the junction box? That seems to simple. Maybe I am misunderstanding. (Read- "probably".)
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So... to say this pleases me is understatement.
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Yes, that simple. Crazy huh?
I've used the regulators from Treatland and they seem to do a good job. Just hook in to your hot side and reg is grounded then I think it just bleeds off anything over 6V. That's how the hookup is so simple.

I think you will make the new deadline, real progress being made. So who do I see about placing my bet and is there a minimum wager?
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Thanks Terry.

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Can anyone post a pic of the CDI mounted on the an ET3 or PK... any smallie with EI?

The SIP mounting bracket doesn't fit the case (BC of course.) and I want to make sure the one I fabbed up (bodged-up) will work.

TIA
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It goes in the side glove box. Mounting bracket goes through 2 holes in inner side of box. There is a grommet that the spark lead and wires from the stator goes through.


I can get more photos tomorrow.
Cdi in glove box.
Cdi in glove box.
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Welp... I did not have that on my radar.
Once again you have saved the day kind sir! Gracias.
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No problem, I will get more photos tomorrow. Do you have the 2 bolt holes in the inside of the glovebox and 2 larger holes for wires ?
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Dunno... Will look when I get to the house this evening.
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Yes 2 bolt holes. And the SiP mount fits. My apologies to SIP for bagging on their "perfect repair" description. It was, in fact, accurate.

Below the cdi bracket… there is a small hole leading to the area in the frame under the gas tank.

And, there is also a larger hole below that opening to the engine compartment/area.

Would love to see the correct frame grommets,and how the ht routes back to the spark plug. Hole seems a touch small.
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Would love to see how the ht routes back to the spark plug. Hole seems a touch small.
Small frames use smaller sparks so they fit through that little hole just fine. Razz emoticon
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Yea you have to thread the spark through the glovebox. Facepalm emoticon


Here are some pictures as promised. The spark plug lead has a heavy rubber sleeve on to protect it from mud and crud.

Also Cdi bracket is mounted on rubber grommets too.
The spark and stator leads follow the swing arm
The spark and stator leads follow the swing arm
The spark and stator lead goes through a grommet in the larger hole from inside mudguard. SIP sell an aftermarket bracket to thread the wires that goes on the exhaust clamp.
The spark and stator lead goes through a grommet in the larger hole from inside mudguard. SIP sell an aftermarket bracket to thread the wires that goes on the exhaust clamp.
Green wire for ignition cut off and indicator lead goes through smaller grommet. The back side of the Cdi bracket is where the earth wire for the loom grounds.
Green wire for ignition cut off and indicator lead goes through smaller grommet. The back side of the Cdi bracket is where the earth wire for the loom grounds.
Spark and stator leads need to be connected to Cdi before you bolt it onto bracket
Spark and stator leads need to be connected to Cdi before you bolt it onto bracket
This is the bracket for holding the stator and spark wires in place on swing arm
This is the bracket for holding the stator and spark wires in place on swing arm
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