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It's so convoluted and complicated in shape and dull color finish that I can barely make out it's form in the Link's photo image of the machine, and half of it is visually lost against the background.

That's not to say it isn't a great bike, just hard (for me) to look at it and see much more than what appears to be something akin to a construction zone on two wheels.

But you have to remember that my comment is from someone who bought a Vespa based first and foremost on the machine's classic, clean, and traditional styling, and fortunately, liked it's mechanical characteristics as a secondary consideration after the fact.

Does this make me a shallow person?

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It's so convoluted and complicated in shape and dull color finish that I can barely make out it's form in the Link's photo image of the machine, and half of it is visually lost against the background.
Compliments on finding a very sophisticated way of saying it looks like shit
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Plus there's no curry hook, so that's a deal breaker.
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It looks to me like they took all the plastics off of a maxiscooter and then tried to dress up what was left with some shiny trim.

Put another way, it wasn't designed so much as it was congealed.
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I think that they should have named it the Italjet 'Entropy' to give a clever nod to the bike's aesthetic journey from potential order to certain chaos...maybe spelling it with an 'i' instead of a 'y' to make it a bit more 'edgy'...if that's even possible.

I will admit, however, that for excessively complicated styling, it could give the Triumph 'Bug-Eyed Shrapnel' model a run for the money with their eye-shredding masterwork of optical buggery (fine machine that it undoubtedly is).
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Put another way, it wasn't designed so much as it was congealed.
I believe that to be italjet's business model.
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Where my funny front suspension that defines the model?
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Where my funny front suspension that defines the model?
I saw that too. It's not a Dragster, and has nothing to do with Italjet. Italjet went out of business.
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What part of this machine makes it a scooter out of interest?

Not step through
No running boards
Chain driven
Foot operated six-speed transmission
Big (ish) wheels

It just looks like something both bikers and scooterists can hate on

Maybe if my name was Kevin Flynn..
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Not step through
Chain driven
Foot operated six-speed transmission
Big (ish) wheels
This describes many maxi-scooters, with the notable exception of the manual transmission.

It's more step-through than not step through, at least.
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It's a hop through.
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This describes many maxi-scooters, with the notable exception of the manual transmission.

It's more step-through than not step through, at least.
I look at most things nowadays through arthritic hip tinted glasses
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I look at most things nowadays through arthritic hip tinted glasses
Fair enough.
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Edited previous post to add lack of running boards
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I like it a lot.
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It looks long to me, like the swingarm has been extended to handle a very powerful engine.

I wonder what it handles like. My old Ducati (1975) was a very long bike and it handled wonderfully, like it was on rails very stable at speed.
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No thanks. That thing couldn't run well enough, nor fast enough, for me to consider. I'm fine where I am.
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jess wrote:
It looks to me like they took all the plastics off of a maxiscooter and then tried to dress up what was left with some shiny trim.

Put another way, it wasn't designed so much as it was congealed.
Did you catch the 58hp on a striped down scoot?

Edit-Also the top notch brakes and bells and whistles? As a scooter guy you should be cheering something like this.
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Did you catch the 58hp on a striped down scoot?

Edit-Also the top notch brakes and bells and whistles? As a scooter guy you should be cheering something like this.
did you catch the $13,000 to $16,000 expected retail? and 400lb is hardly "stripped down"

also, manual transmission. which if I'm shifting gears it's gonna be: 2T, 100+hp or only have 4 gears and chrome shifter with a white knob attached.
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Did you catch the 58hp on a striped down scoot?
Did you catch that somebody beat it with the ugly stick?
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Did you catch that somebody beat it with the ugly stick?
the kind of face only a mother could love; and then only on payday.
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znomit wrote:
It's a hop through.
For me, it would be stumble through.
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Did you catch that somebody beat it with the ugly stick?
I like ugly fat girls.
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greasy125 wrote:
did you catch the $13,000 to $16,000 expected retail? and 400lb is hardly "stripped down"

also, manual transmission. which if I'm shifting gears it's gonna be: 2T, 100+hp or only have 4 gears and chrome shifter with a white knob attached.
Well, that's just like your opinion, man.

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Well, that's just like your opinion, man.
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