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Birdsnest wrote: I've been using these in all my scoots: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FNXBTRC?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title 6v or 12v You have to swap out the harness connections…But the price and fitment are pretty fantastic. Ordered a Prima from what turns out to be a drop shipper(?). Their location on google comes up as somewhere in the Pacific ocean |
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Thanks so much for the replies!
I "think" I've solved it. Was going to just ride it, but better to do this now and sleep better vs later. If this doesn't work I'll get 108's bracket and modify the CDI bracket (hits it in that pic), but guessing it would take a huge bump 2 up for it to hit. Pics: Thought I had 30mm to rotate, but only 12 if I keep the cap.
Deeper
I Whodat-bashed it here, where it hit.
Spring lever. 19 gauge wire and a hammer.
Keep this?
Heating the glue on the badges. Not sure where to place the Piaggio badge next to the choke(?).
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Working on wiring.
If anyone needs dental work I'm ready, after working with the headset cables and wiring. The clutch is slipping a bit when kicking. Haven't taken it out yet and can't find the four springs I took out. Hoping it'll work since the clutch feels great. I can't get any of the rubber door buffers in the painted holes. Stick them in boiling water? Drill? Any trick? Finally got the battery. This fits. Everything DC off the battery so-far wiring. Lots of extra wiring with bar ends.
Fits with a battery pad inside the door.
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That yellow looks fantastic…!
The rubbers? Wd40, plastic gasket tool and persistence…
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That looks crazy-good.
For rubber plugs like that, you have to find a way to pull them through from the back side. I got some which came with a little rubber extrusion on the tip that you can grab with pliers to pull them through. Maybe go searching the depths of your supply catalog of choice for something like that. |
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Took it out today.
Plenty of power. Air leak for sure. Greased felt ring and pressed in with a 1 x 2 (from a Voodoo post) no luck. I've got another felt ring. Double up? When I put it in first with the clutch pulled it stalls. Throttle it a bit while shifting no stall, no rpm drop and no lurching afterward. Engine off, put it in 1st, clutch pulled. When first rolling it there's an initial clunky resistance, then it rolls smooth. More cable tension makes no difference. At a loss here! |
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It sounds to me your clutch spider maybe touching the primary basket. If adjusting the clutch cable does nothing. My Falc clutch was doing the same thing. I had to shim the Christmas tree to get the right clearance.
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Ray, just going through the thread, not sure if you ended up getting the pkxl style clutch cover… think that might be the issue.
It's really important you get the extra throw on the plunger, the short lever arm helps. |
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ccsp03 wrote: It sounds to me your clutch spider maybe touching the primary basket. If adjusting the clutch cable does nothing. My Falc clutch was doing the same thing. I had to shim the Christmas tree to get the right clearance. Is there a way to test for this on the bench? Forgot to mention once in gear there's less noise. Like the opposite of the Cosa clutch |
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108 wrote: Ray, just going through the thread, not sure if you ended up getting the pkxl style clutch cover… think that might be the issue. It's really important you get the extra throw on the plunger, the short lever arm helps. Can I replace just the lever? Now I see there are two versions of the Stoffi spring. I ordered the L instead of the XL. At least I found the four springs I left out! |
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Ray8 wrote: Original cover and (longer arm) lever. Can I replace just the lever? |
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Are you tuning with the stock air filter on? It's pretty restrictive and can cause air leaks elsewhere
Happened on mine (sport 100 cylinder, 19 carb, kidney pipe). Going to a mesh screen filter helped. |
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mor_ wrote: Are you tuning with the stock air filter on? It's pretty restrictive and can cause air leaks elsewhere Happened on mine (sport 100 cylinder, 19 carb, kidney pipe). Going to a mesh screen filter helped. I have a Malossi E4 I haven't installed yet. No felt ring resistance before the carb bottomed out. Tomorrow I'll double-up or try a fat rubber o-ring, and use the Malossi filter. If that doesn't work I'll get the SIP carb with the nylon sleeve |
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chandlerman wrote: I don't see why you couldn't. Get that "For a A Grade Repair" action going. The bar end turn signals have to be the shitiest of anything with an SIP logo on it. Grade 1 Thinking I could add a another (shorter) pinch bolt stop to the lever I have, but first I'll try it with 12 springs and see how that goes. The adjustment window is so narrow on this clutch |
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Ray8 wrote: Original cover and (longer arm) lever. Can I replace just the lever? Now I see there are two versions of the Stoffi spring. I ordered the L instead of the XL. At least I found the four springs I left out! Not sure on compatibility as I went with the crimaz cover because of clutch rubbing issues with the fabbri primary baskets. So the XL springs are stronger? |
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108 wrote: Yeah I think crimaz have a kit to change it to a small arm with a toothed plunger. Not sure on compatibility as I went with the crimaz cover because of clutch rubbing issues with the fabbri primary baskets. So the XL springs are stronger? Says up to 12hp, but I would have wanted to meter it by removing (or switching, like on the Cosa's) springs. Can't find the springs individually (7 x 25mm). I was about to make an adjustable lever like the one in the pic below. Re-checked it. The springs bottom out almost exactly where the lever at the headset bottoms out. Looks like a shorter lever won't help here 55mm vs 35
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Okay, this bike is done
Four more springs did the trick. No clue why. 10 min ride today. Need to adjust the gear cables a bit, make a licence plate bracket, and a plate to connect the speedo cable I lost But I'm considering this done. Everything works. Awesome rider. Thanks so much for all your help. My wife last night: "Did you leave the headlight on on purpose?" Me: "Umm, yeah, of course!" Sat an hour and a half with LED headlight and tail light on. Lost only .08 volts. *Forgot to mention the air leak "solve." Put in a viton o-ring and pressed the carb against it with a 1x2 while torquing. MUCH better now. 2k rattle can. No primer. 4 coats. Flashed for 8, 12, 15min at 70F. Like glass.
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Ray8 wrote: Sat an hour and a half with LED headlight and tail light on. Lost only .08 volts. So no need to customise the clutch cover arm? |
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Ray8 wrote: Okay, this bike is done |
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108 wrote: Crazy… that's some bulb! So no need to customise the clutch cover arm? Original clutch arm. With all the springs in there it works. Had a big XL2 $$$hopping kart ready if it didn't. I am hearing a slight rattle in neutral, though, with or without the clutch pulled. Doesn't sound like Cosa clutch rattle, more like that video I posted before tapping the tree deeper into the bearing |
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chandlerman wrote: Outstanding! About chance we'll get to see it in action at ROM? If I go I'll take my Allstate. This one is intended as an in-city lane splitter. |
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Following up for posterity.
The rattle went away after a few miles. No clue why. I had the gears pretty tight, as they were new. Neutral is very "narrow" compared to my LF's. Also no clue why, but I do have the 50mm diameter short shifter. 3rd is close to 2 1/4 on the headset Almost wished I had that neutral indicator back, but the bar-end signals can't be seen with a jacket on. Rode a few miles in city traffic with the right signal on. An indicator wire needs a diode or both will light together. Switched out the carb for the SIP 19mm with the nylon sleeve. Couldn't get the needle seat to stop leaking on the original carb, and one of the bowl screws was stripped. SIP box arrived in 3 days UPS Bit of a splatter mess running the exhaust without sealant at the connection. The original speedo bulb size is not available. There's a slightly longer bulb that works, but the plastic holder tab won't seat. Works so far with tape. Indicator bulbs 3 buy's lucky. Standard BA7S bulbs won't fit into these narrow holders. Ruined a lot of bulbs trying to file down standard bulbs. LED's from Superbrightleds are plastic bulbs, so allow filing down the flare at the top of the housing. SIP carb
8-5mm hose adapter needed
Nitrile o-ring for the hell of it
Bright. The speedo bulb can't be seen during the day
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