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I bought a Primavera 150 in October, after 3 weeks and 800km ride, i feel like the power of the engine is too weak for my routine to work(10Km, 50% routine requires more than 80KMH), so i decide to switch it to GTS 300, but the problem is the 2023 model will come to China in May 2024, the currently model in the market is still 2022 model, so I'm so confused how big difference or upgrade the 2023 model is, cuz 2022 model here has a big price off, only 5900$, the price used to be 7500$, I really need your advice, should I wait for the 2023 model? Or just buy the 2022 model. Thanks a lot, my western friends.
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The 2022 is slightly faster (with the tone wheel installed) than the 2023. But you'll be happy with either, or both.
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Greetings from Minnesota. They are both great. I would not wait for the newer model. I still have my 2013 GTS300 Super and it is great. After all, the Vespa 300 is the scooter for all purposes. It has that extra power to get up and go. Bob Copeland ![]() My Dragon Red at the local Vespa Dealer in my town.
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Lars_Danner wrote: The 2022 is slightly faster (with the tone wheel installed) than the 2023. But you'll be happy with either, or both. |
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Bob Copeland wrote: Fender, Greetings from Minnesota. They are both great. I would not wait for the newer model. I still have my 2013 GTS300 Super and it is great. After all, the Vespa 300 is the scooter for all purposes. It has that extra power to get up and go. Bob Copeland
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I bought the 2023 model 4 months ago. I find the revised front suspension makes a big difference to the handling of the scooter, The brakes have been upgraded too, and there are fancier wheels. I really think this model is the best Vespa ever (but mine is a Vietnamese built one, and is Euro 4, not Euro5).
I sold my 2018 GTS300 but still have the 2015 one. It sits in the garage very neglected since I got the new one. It has all the Malossi gear, Frando brake callipers, bitubo shocks, so it is equal in perfomance to the HPE models. Just not as smooth on the road.
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Mike Holland wrote: I bought the 2023 model 4 months ago. I find the revised front suspension makes a big difference to the handling of the scooter, The brakes have been upgraded too, and there are fancier wheels. I really think this model is the best Vespa ever (but mine is a Vietnamese built one, and is Euro 4, not Euro5). I sold my 2018 GTS300 but still have the 2015 one. It sits in the garage very neglected since I got the new one. It has all the Malossi gear, Frando brake callipers, bitubo shocks, so it is equal in perfomance to the HPE models. Just not as smooth on the road. |
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I would definitely go for MY2023 even if it costs more
why? 1st build quality is way better than the horror near-pre-HPE era. for MY2023 looks like Piaggio has used a completely new set of tools for the body, all fits better and feels more robust. it is not only that the front end's suspension got additional link (which is great improvement for itself), they also use now Japanese breaks from Nissin at the both ends (Nissin is Japanese equivalent of Brembo), which is additional significant improvement. I have the feeling that ASR is also much more mature, it does not kick in so often un-neccessary as before 2nd, overall drive feel is much better, no wobbly steering, it has more than enough power to pull the Hypo that I am 3rd, esthetics of the cascade (tie) is just gorgeous, for the first time I adore the new rear lights, the shape, including the ring is awesome to a point that I do not desire to remove the ring from it like I did on every other Vespa that was not pre-(lest say) 2011 for all said and written, my recommendation would be to go for MY2023, it is worth waiting |
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Mike Holland wrote: I bought the 2023 model 4 months ago. I find the revised front suspension makes a big difference to the handling of the scooter, The brakes have been upgraded too, and there are fancier wheels. I really think this model is the best Vespa ever ... I sold my 2018 GTS300 but still have the 2015 one. ... MY2023 is really so far also my best GTS |
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Fender- wrote: I asked a friend in Milan, he went to the motor show, only the front suspension has one extra connecting rod, rare suspension has no changes, for the engine part, upgrade to EU5 and top speed 123kmh, gueee I will go for the 2022 model HPE2 (MY2023) is overall another level of build quality. SO if you can wait for a month or 2, and you can afford the price difference, my recommendation would be ALWAYS go for MY2023 |
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As Preddybaer has said, 2023 is a totally new build quality. Just the front beading is now beautiful, moulded to fit with the body shape and not just a round tube. All the body parts are fitted together better. But there are a lot more screws and nuts holding it all together, so and engine/body work has twice as many things to undo and takes twice as long.
The brakes are better, the saddle is more comfortable, the suspension is better, the performance is great, the keyless unlocking and ignition is fun, and it is the most beautiful Vespa ever (even better than a GS150). Just wish they would do something about that silly sloping headlight. |
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Mike Holland wrote: ...Just wish they would do something about that silly sloping headlight. by far the worst thing on HPE and HPE2 is the bloody oil level check and fill port. the designer who designed it and chief engineer who permitted this should be shot at spot! one solution is to buy big syringe (250 ml or even 500 ml) with the hose extention to fill/add oil. on the port side, change the oil tray with the one with the oil level window. and check oil levels regularly. otherwise, really the most perfect GTS so far, only ones to be able to compete were GTS300 from late 2000s without ABS. |
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I have a MY23 GTS. It's a great bike and I thoroughly recommend it. Like Mike's bike mine is Vietnam built and looks pretty good. I sold 2 GTS (2012 & 2108 in UK) build quality is equivalent to those bikes.
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The suspension is a big improvement and the ABS system as tested by me last wee k is magic. Agree that the oil dip is a joke tho so bought a sight glass kit for the next change. My 2023 is the Verde and I like the color. The new bike feels solid, better all around.
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I bought the 2023 GTS 300 despite having to wait for it for several months. The improvements over the 2022 model, to me, were worth it. Yes, the oil filler position is a pain, but overall this model is everything I wanted. I added a top box and mid-sized screen (I do highway trips) and it handles all conditions well. I also love the keyless ignition..
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