OP
@wirelesscat avatar
UTC

Member
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
 
Member
@wirelesscat avatar
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
UTC quote
Hi guys

I recently bought a vespa ET4 150 year 2000

I am trying to change both break levers

All ET4 models i search online have a front brake disc and line back brake

Mine has both line brakes

Is that normal?

Thanks
Mario
@jakem avatar
UTC

Addicted
Vespa Sprint Sport S 125cc
Joined: UTC
Posts: 736
Location: Brighton, England
 
Addicted
@jakem avatar
Vespa Sprint Sport S 125cc
Joined: UTC
Posts: 736
Location: Brighton, England
UTC quote
Can you post a picture of the front and rear wheel with the brakes?
OP
@wirelesscat avatar
UTC

Member
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
 
Member
@wirelesscat avatar
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
UTC quote
Here they are
Forum member supplied image with no explanatory text
OP
@wirelesscat avatar
UTC

Member
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
 
Member
@wirelesscat avatar
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
UTC quote
Back
Forum member supplied image with no explanatory text
@greasy125 avatar
UTC

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15091
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
@greasy125 avatar
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15091
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
UTC quote
to answer your question, no, that is not normal.

looks like somebody swapped in a Piaggio Sfera front fork from the early 90's

luckily, those cables are widely available. so I'd just replace it and carry on.

the cost to swap back to the proper components would not be cheap.
OP
@wirelesscat avatar
UTC

Member
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
 
Member
@wirelesscat avatar
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
UTC quote
Thank you very much for the answer. When you say the fork what exactly do you mean? Does that include the handle bars?
OP
@wirelesscat avatar
UTC

Member
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
 
Member
@wirelesscat avatar
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
UTC quote
This is the bike now
Forum member supplied image with no explanatory text
@greasy125 avatar
UTC

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15091
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
@greasy125 avatar
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15091
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
UTC quote
wirelesscat wrote:
Thank you very much for the answer. When you say the fork what exactly do you mean? Does that include the handle bars?
the entire steering column. if I had to guess the bike was in an accident and the fork was bent so they found that sfera fork kicking around on the cheap and put that in, they are very close to vespa in dimensions.

the ET4 handlebar assembly likely bolts up to that fork like an ET one or with very minimal work, that's why the headset (handlebar covers) work.

however, I don't know what they used for the brake lever perch but if I had to guess it's probably the sfera pieces. how do the back of the handles bars look, where the grip and switches are?
OP
@wirelesscat avatar
UTC

Member
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
 
Member
@wirelesscat avatar
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
UTC quote
Here
Forum member supplied image with no explanatory text
OP
@wirelesscat avatar
UTC

Member
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
 
Member
@wirelesscat avatar
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
UTC quote
Another
Forum member supplied image with no explanatory text
OP
@wirelesscat avatar
UTC

Member
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
 
Member
@wirelesscat avatar
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
UTC quote
More
Forum member supplied image with no explanatory text
OP
@wirelesscat avatar
UTC

Member
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
 
Member
@wirelesscat avatar
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
UTC quote
Plus this
Forum member supplied image with no explanatory text
@old_as_dirt avatar
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 GTS
Joined: UTC
Posts: 22920
Location: Harriman, Tennessee, Tn
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
@old_as_dirt avatar
2007 GTS
Joined: UTC
Posts: 22920
Location: Harriman, Tennessee, Tn
UTC quote
wirelesscat wrote:
This is the bike now
you can clearly see the paint color difference in the fender from the body.

that front end has been swapped out
OP
@wirelesscat avatar
UTC

Member
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
 
Member
@wirelesscat avatar
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
UTC quote
Guys thanks for your respond.

I think you are right that the front fork has been replaced.

I am having ithe front fender painted the same color.

The bike drives fine though.

Do you see any problem with it being replaced?

Thanks Mario
@motovista avatar
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
GT 200
Joined: UTC
Posts: 9311
Location: Main Street, Watts
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
@motovista avatar
GT 200
Joined: UTC
Posts: 9311
Location: Main Street, Watts
UTC quote
It's a small bike, and drum front brakes are still good enough for Honda. They work fine for that application. You don't lose stopping distance as much as you lose the ability to brake hard over and over again, like on long, fast winding descents. Drum brakes will fade before disks will. Unless you find an ET where the back end was taken out, and you can buy the entire front stem, brakes, hose, handlebars and perches, basically everything connected to the steering stem, it's likely not worth trying to switch back.
I would check the front shoes first chance I got. People who fix on the cheap sometimes use parts that are just about used up.
OP
@wirelesscat avatar
UTC

Member
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
 
Member
@wirelesscat avatar
Vespa ET4 150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 18
Location: Cyprus
UTC quote
Thank you so much that is very helpful.

Does this mean that also the handlebars are changed?? Do i need brake levers for piaggio sfera model as well?? What else do i need of sfera model besides drum brakes?

Thanks
Mario
@greasy125 avatar
UTC

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15091
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
@greasy125 avatar
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15091
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
UTC quote
this is going to sound rude, and really, I don't mean it to be but we can't answer any of those questions definitively.

anything is just a guess, to be honest. I'm *guessing* that they put the ET handlebars on there because the covers appear to kind of sort of fit. but unless you blow it all apart and show us pictures anything more is just a guess.

again, guessing here, but I'd think that the front brake lever and perch was scavenged from the sfera and just scabbed onto the et bars where the stock master cylinder would go. that would make the most sense in terms of easiest path with least amount of mucking about.

so basically, anything you need for the front end: brakes, shock, brake cable, lever are all more than likely sfera. all the rest, ET. maybe.

Modern Vespa is the premier site for modern Vespa and Piaggio scooters. Vespa GTS300, GTS250, GTV, GT200, LX150, LXS, ET4, ET2, MP3, Fuoco, Elettrica and more.

Modern Vespa is made possible by our generous supporters.

Buy Me A Coffee
 

Shop on Amazon with Modern Vespa

Modern Vespa is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com


All Content Copyright 2005-2025 by Modern Vespa.
All Rights Reserved.


[ Time: 0.0113s ][ Queries: 4 (0.0024s) ][ live ][ 334 ][ ThingOne ]