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What's the point of having an anti-dive bracket with the shock in its original position??
I wish I could say that it was some sort of subtle test of NSM's powers of observations or something, but I just screwed up the re-assembly. It does explain why it was so much harder to get back together than I recalled, though.
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I wish I could say that it was some sort of subtle test of NSM's powers of observations or something, but I just screwed up the re-assembly. It does explain why it was so much harder to get back together than I recalled, though.
Oh…
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The black running gear looks great. I like the black crest but it makes the scoot look more modern. I swear, in the pics your paint actually looks like 3 different shades of color. Gray, blue and a periwinkle. I dig it.
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That front fork was bothering me so much after y'all pointed out my mistake that I just snuck out to my workshop and fixed it.
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That front fork was bothering me so much after y'all pointed out my mistake that I just snuck out to my workshop and fixed it.
looking quite good but I can't stop looking at that phillips head screw on the side of the fender - isn't there something that would look better, it just seems so... off.
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I can't get over the angle the shock is at with anti-dive.

Wish there was some sort of adaptor for the top of the shock to straighten it out.
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looking quite good but I can't stop looking at that phillips head screw on the side of the fender - isn't there something that would look better, it just seems so... off.
It's also only on there hand-tight. I just didn't have a proper screw, but wasn't going to hold off on the rest of the assembly because of that.
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I can't get over the angle the shock is at with anti-dive.

Wish there was some sort of adaptor for the top of the shock to straighten it out.
I guess I could have modified the top mount and shifted it over, but didn't even think of it.

What's funniest about it all is that I've commented in the past about how triangular the suspension looks with anti-dive, not to mention that it was super-hard to get onto the wrong post, but I never stopped and thought, "Why is this SO MUCH harder than I remember it being?" even before I failed to notice the geometry was obviously wrong.
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It's also only on there hand-tight. I just didn't have a proper screw, but wasn't going to hold off on the rest of the assembly because of that.

that's a relief, I will tell my OCD to be quiet now Laughing emoticon
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that's a relief, I will tell my OCD to be quiet now Laughing emoticon
ROFL emoticon

It also lacks the nylon spacer between the mudguard and fork. I had to cut off the old screw, it was so rusted and the spacer was long gone.

New parts coming soon.
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"Why is this SO MUCH harder than I remember it being?"
That's me... but at every step... of every build.
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That front fork was bothering me so much after y'all pointed out my mistake that I just snuck out to my workshop and fixed it.
That looks Mui Boo-nita Razz emoticon
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I can't get over the angle the shock is at with anti-dive.

Wish there was some sort of adaptor for the top of the shock to straighten it out.
Antoine Fleury (AF Parts) posted this on FB…
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Antoine Fleury (AF Parts) posted this on FB…
Well NOW you show me! Laughing emoticon

That'd be a really easy mod if the fork was still stripped down and unpainted.
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so how do you fix it now?
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so how do you fix it now?
Since the bearing race is already installed, I'll just get used to disappointment. It's not like it's the first time I've done it.
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Is it better to ditch the anti-dive than run it with wrong shock location? that's what I'm wondering.
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Is it better to ditch the anti-dive than run it with wrong shock location? that's what I'm wondering.
The triangular arrangement is pretty much normal with the anti-dive. That other dude is just fancy
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looking quite good but I can't stop looking at that phillips head screw on the side of the fender - isn't there something that would look better, it just seems so... off.
I really wanted to say something about this, but decided I might come across as petty.... thank you!! ROFL emoticon ROFL emoticon
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Antoine Fleury (AF Parts) posted this on FB…
That's what AF parts stands for! Always wondered!

Love they're stuff.

Finally! Someone's done it. Good inspiration!

Yeah the misalignment is normal on the anti dive.

I wonder if repositioning it helps out with the hardness? I went back to stock position (which is a little squishy, but not too bad with an aftermarket part) when the malossi rs24 shock and anti dive was too hard for me… it hardly compressed going over small bumps, just ended up bouncing over it.

Probably would be great with a softer shock, also with it straight… lol

Oh and you'll be surprised how important the nylon spacer is, it aligns the mudguard so it doesn't hit the leg shield.
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CM.
How about this?
Just strip the paint up at shock top and weld one of these on.

No one will see and no need to repaint or disassemble.
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Saw this on IG… CM is that you?

In trend? Or a case of it was always in trend and never left..?
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That's not me. I'm not on Instagram at all.

Plus, he's a better painter than I am.
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That's not me. I'm not on Instagram at all.

Plus, he's a better painter than I am.
You never know, everyone's learning curve is different. Might have gotten really good, quick…
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Yeah, but CMs branding is 10x some rando instagram guys.
Currently best avatar on site
Glow in the dark color change scooter paint job is just icing on the Frankenberry.
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Yeah, but CMs branding is 10x some rando instagram guys.
Currently best avatar on site
Glow in the dark color change scooter paint job is just icing on the Frankenberry.
Ok he won with the colour change paint scheme…
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Sounds like fine Saturday night.
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Yeah, but CMs branding is 10x some rando instagram guys.
Currently best avatar on site
Glow in the dark color change scooter paint job is just icing on the Frankenberry.
The glow-in-the-dark was supposed to be a secret!

Now I have to change up the whole project.
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As well-developed as Chandlerman's skills are, I don't think he can transform a smallframe into a largeframe!!
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As well-developed as Chandlerman's skills are, I don't think he can transform a smallframe into a largeframe!!
Agreed. That's more of a CM2 thing.
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Hmmm

More likely ebeth...
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Took the day off work today and spent it in the workshop instead.

Legshield trim is done. Floor rails are riveted on, but no end caps or rubber yet. Wiring harness is almost done. Horn is done. Rear brake is partly done.

My latest SIP package is in route and as of now, I'm not missing anything nor has my package decided to go missing in Memphis or backpack around europe for a couple weeks.
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My latest SIP package is in route and as of now, I'm not missing anything nor has my package decided to go missing in Memphis or backpack around europe for a couple weeks.
Shhhh. Shh.

The first rule of SIP Shipment club is not to discuss SIP Shipment club.
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On my '64 have run this foe quite a while. Never a problem with the shock.
Your setup will be fine.
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On my '64 have run this foe quite a while. Never a problem with the shock.
Your setup will be fine.
Yours isn't a biturbo…

Softer shocks seem more forgiving with the anti dive
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I've had this setup for over a year now and it's seen at least a thousand miles, probably more, with no issues.

That's on Nashville roads and even the occasional "oh shit! I'm probably going down" level of pothole hits.

It's all good.
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Yours isn't a biturbo…

Softer shocks seem more forgiving with the anti dive
Quite right. It's a Carbone HiTech I changed both front and rear from the Carbone Sport to the HyTech versions last riding season to have more adjustability
Started with the lowest spring setting on the front and slowly adjusted until it felt comfortable.
I have no experience with biturbo and front end stiffness is really personal preference.
I'm willing to give up some ride quality for sharper handling.
When I was in my 30's and 40's I was a velodrome racer so got really used to very quick handling track and road bikes that preference has carried into my 70's.
After I built the P200 a couple of years ago I just couldn't get comfortable with the handling which is why I found the Allstate.
Riding it on 8's feels very much like the smallie.
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Electrical is done other than the speedo, tach, and CHT. That would be no big deal except that I forgot to run the sensor leads for the CHT and Tach, and spent over half an hour trying to get them through with no success.

I won't be able to procrastinate on the floor rail rubber much longer.
Not sure why its blurry.  I guess the room must've been blurry when I took it.
Not sure why its blurry. I guess the room must've been blurry when I took it.
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Damn son! You quickfast on the build just like that scoot's purr machine!
(I think I have managed the KS quad intsallation since we last compared progress notes.) ((Oh, and a clutch seal placed!!!))



Looks great man!
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