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I want to lower my 2016 Sprint 150. Has anyone used this type of height reducers? They are very lightweight aluminum. I'm wondering if i hit a big pothole if they would crack? I got them from Amazon so I'm not sure of the quality.Im sure they are copies of some like scooterwest sells, but a lot cheaper.
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I would not trust my safety to Chinese junk from Amazon. The real one is 30 bucks.
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What is the bracket material made of? Steel, aluminum? Also, be aware that the steering geometry is going to change when the back is lowered and not the front. That is, it will stay in a straight line easier, but slower to turn into a curve. You may/may not notice it much.
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Having had a Sprint lowered in the past (using the hardware from SW), the ride was a lot rougher, bottoming out a lot more often (~200lbs). No matter what hardware used, it will likely be harshly tested on the road.
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besupa wrote: Having had a Sprint lowered in the past (using the hardware from SW), the ride was a lot rougher, bottoming out a lot more often (~200lbs). No matter what hardware used, it will likely be harshly tested on the road. |
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Vsteve49 wrote: I want to lower my 2016 Sprint 150. Has anyone used this type of height reducers? They are very lightweight aluminum. I'm wondering if i hit a big pothole if they would crack? I got them from Amazon so I'm not sure of the quality.Im sure they are copies of some like scooterwest sells, but a lot cheaper. https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/height-reducer-kit-sip-rear_MV667872 |
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Tierney wrote: What is the bracket material made of? Steel, aluminum? Also, be aware that the steering geometry is going to change when the back is lowered and not the front. That is, it will stay in a straight line easier, but slower to turn into a curve. You may/may not notice it much. |
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I installed the set from SW. I also installed the "travel reducer" on the shock shaft, which reduces the shock's travel a bit. That is so the muffler won't get hit by the suspension at a large bump. It's not necessary to install the spacer, but highly recommended.
I notice no difference in handling, and I don't bottom out my suspension, since I usually ride on nicely paved country roads. Installation wasn't hard - putting the recommended reducer on the shock was a bit of work, but watching Robot do it made it pretty simple. When installing the actual brackets, I failed to notice that each is not symmetrical, so of course I installed one backwards. It took a while for me to realize the problem, easily fixed. I'm very glad I installed the kit. |
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The Zelioni bracket which looks better made than other choices, is also available through ScooterWest (though, of course, it costs a bit more).
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SteelBytes wrote: that doesn't really makes sense to me. using the same shocks and simply lowering the anchor point shouldn't make it bottom out more often. The lowering of the backend may change the geometry of impact, increasing the bias on the back. As well, the lowered backend may have encouraged a subtle shift backwards on the seat for me, with similar results. My weight may be a consideration here, pushing an already marginal situation over the edge. The roads around here are awful as well. Also, as mentioned in passing by Olde Rider, I'm not 100% sure what was crunching all of the time; maybe the shock travels a little less, maybe the old bike had something in just the wrong spot. (It was a bit of a rescue.) All that said, in a repeat, I'd do seat lowering, then shock. |
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The bike may bottom out because of the added spacer on the shock shaft.
I must correct myself - this is a quote from SW - "We recommend installing the included spacer washers in the shock to limit the travel on iGet model Vespas. The exhaust on these models is slightly higher and can potentially damage the body work." My apologies. |
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Olde Rider wrote: The bike may bottom out because of the added spacer on the shock shaft. I must correct myself - this is a quote from SW - "We recommend installing the included spacer washers in the shock to limit the travel on iGet model Vespas. The exhaust on these models is slightly higher and can potentially damage the body work." My apologies. |
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