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310 ready for EICMA:

[…]
This article has already been published several times with identical wording. At the time of the first publication, there was already detailed information on the vehicle, engine, etc. as well as photos.
Therefore, the republication in the umpteenth online portal unfortunately does not bring any gain in knowledge.
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Either did this last post, or this mine
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Vespa GTS310 SS 2025
Blue exhaust header or bad Photoshop?
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Blue exhaust header or bad Photoshop?
and old seatbench…
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and old seatbench…
Looks like chrome switchgear as well…
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Looks like chrome switchgear as well…
Indeed…
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With all that extra power being produced they should increase the number of those totally authentic cooling slots on the cowl.
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With all that extra power being produced they should increase the number of those totally authentic cooling slots on the cowl.
Yeah, don't want the gas tank to overheat.
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When the 2023 model arrived in Australia it came from Vietnam and was Euro 4, with the old exhaust and just one catalyzer, but otherwise identical to the European model.

I wonder what we will get for the GTS310?
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I think the speed I update to the 310cc will be dependant on how many of my current accessories from my 2021 HPE will be compatible.
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Coddy wrote:
I think the speed I update to the 310cc will be dependant on how many of my current accessories from my 2021 HPE will be compatible.
What accessories are you thinking of?

Everything about the body, chassis and appearance fits 1:1 (compared to MY23). Only engine parts / exhaust will not fit, as we are talking about a completely newly developed engine.

From the E5+ emissions standard, there are two lambda sensors (before and after catalytic converter). An important question should therefore be whether the markets outside EU (UK???) will also get the E5+ with two lambda sensors or just one as before. The exhaust issue will depend on this. Sportvario and other engine tuning will have to be redeveloped/adapted due to the new engine.
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What accessories are you thinking of?

Everything about the body, chassis and appearance fits 1:1 (compared to MY23). Only engine parts / exhaust will not fit, as we are talking about a completely newly developed engine.

From the E5+ emissions standard, there are two lambda sensors (before and after catalytic converter). An important question should therefore be whether the markets outside Europe will also get the E5+ with two lambda sensors or just one as before. The exhaust issue will depend on this. Sportvario and other engine tuning will have to be redeveloped/adapted due to the new engine.
I'm thinking of Oil Sight Gauge, Flyscreen, Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack, then there's my Carbon Exhaust Heat Shield and Carbon Transmission Cover.
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Coddy wrote:
I'm thinking of Oil Sight Gauge, Flyscreen, Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack, then there's my Carbon Exhaust Heat Shield and Carbon Transmission Cover.
I bet these are compatible: " Flyscreen, Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack,"
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Coddy wrote:
I'm thinking of Oil Sight Gauge, Flyscreen, Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack, then there's my Carbon Exhaust Heat Shield and Carbon Transmission Cover.
Definitely no:
Oil pan (w/wo sight glas)
Transmission cover

Definitely yes:
Flyscreen (MY23 and later), Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack

Not testet:
Heat Shield (and maybe depends on different exhausts in different markets)
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GermanGTSDriver wrote:
Definitely yes:
Flyscreen, Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack


I don't think a 2021 flyscreen will fit the new body style, RST22 onwards. The brackets are certainly different. I think the screen might be adaptable (i.e. trimmed), but that might just be me being optimistic.
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I don't think a 2021 flyscreen will fit the new body style, RST22 onwards. The brackets are certainly different. I think the screen might be adaptable (i.e. trimmed), but that might just be me being optimistic.
Thats it what was discussed before:
GermanGTSDriver wrote:
Everything about the body, chassis and appearance fits 1:1 (compared to MY23). Only engine parts / exhaust will not fit, as we are talking about a completely newly developed engine.
But thanks for the hint, I will add it again above to avoid misunderstandings.

The following applies to compatibility from Pre-Facelift to MY23:
The BIG Pre-FL to MY23 compatible / non-compatible Thread
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GermanGTSDriver wrote:
Definitely no:
Oil pan (w/wo sight glas)
Transmission cover
Gts-Peter / Buchsenfuchs has already started making these for the 310

https://vespaforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=64479
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I have even intent on transferring my 'GTS250ie' side cowling badge over to my hypothetical 310.
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I don't think a 2021 flyscreen will fit the new body style, RST22 onwards. The brackets are certainly different. I think the screen might be adaptable (i.e. trimmed), but that might just be me being optimistic.
GermanGTSDriver was comparing a 300/MY22('2023') vs a 310/MY24('2025') not a pre-300/MY22('2023') vs a 310/MY24('2025') when he compare the screen and brackets
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GermanGTSDriver was comparing a 300/MY22('2023') vs a 310/MY24('2025') not a pre-300/MY22('2023') vs a 310/MY24('2025') when he compare the screen and brackets
My post was in response to Coddy wondering what accessories he could transfer from his 21 plate...

I'm thinking of Oil Sight Gauge, Flyscreen, Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack, then there's my Carbon Exhaust Heat Shield and Carbon Transmission Cover.

To which GermanGTSDriver replied...

Definitely yes:
Flyscreen (MY23 and later), Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack


He has since edited the post to add the bracketed 'MY23 and later' to clarify.
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The 310 definitely gets my vote for 2024.
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Any thoughts on what the price for the new 310 might be?

Will the 'big' Vespa reach the 10G mark (USD) after dealer markups, etc?

Whatever it is, I would likely have to spend $5000 over what my 24 hp 2020 GTS is worth to get that one-to-two more hp of the new model.

Hmmm...I wonder if I could even get $4000 for my 2020 if I would decide to sell it? (which I am currently considering).
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German Prices (including VAT) are 200€ up for GTS 310 Classic, Super, SuperSport.
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Same here, +200€ on all previous prices (including VAT)…
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Same here in Spain, + 200€ on the standard GTS, GTS Super and GTS Super Sport prices.
I've ordered the GTS Super 310, no special offer as it's a new model, will be 7,299€.
Dealer also told me he thinks they may not be doing the GTS Super Tech in 310.
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Same here in Spain, + 200€ on the standard GTS, GTS Super and GTS Super Sport prices.
I've ordered the GTS Super 310, no special offer as it's a new model, will be 7,299€.
Dealer also told me he thinks they may not be doing the GTS Super Tech in 310.
I am pretty sure that there will also be a GTS SuperTech with a 310cc engine.
In Austria, the GTS 310 was advertised by the general importer there with a text that is presumably intended for the SuperTech... Quote: "the new 5-inch TFT display"...

In addition to the rumors about a larger TFT display (which seems to be true), there are rumors about a new color: matte white (instead of one of the two shades of gray) for the SuperTech

Tuesday we will know more...
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Ok, I know that the 250/300 and now 310 range of scoots is a different breed than the 125/150s but beejeezus those are prices for a 26 hp iron
Mind, no mean feat that the Euro5+ 310 has more oompf, that is not my observation. Just that the step up is large.
Makes me appreciate my dapper little red Primavera.
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With Vespa you can have 2 strokes and reliability
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First pictures of new 2025 GTS 310 SuperTech:

https://vespaforum.de/viewtopic.php?p=885441#p885441

White SuperTech (Not white matt!!!)
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The chrome switchgear cancels out any engine upgrades.
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The chrome switchgear cancels out any engine upgrades.
Since everything's chrome on the Super Tech, it's normal. The Super Sports finally got black ones…
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The chrome switchgear cancels out any engine upgrades.
I'm just thankful it doesn't have Bieber flames or little snakes
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Official page up on the german site:
https://www.vespa.com/de_DE/models/gts/gts-supersport-310-hpe-2024/

Need engine is too ugly to show pictures of though. Razz emoticon

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Official page up on the german site:
https://www.vespa.com/de_DE/models/gts/gts-supersport-310-hpe-2024/

Need engine is too ugly to show pictures of though. Razz emoticon

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https://www.vespagts310.com/vespa-gts-310-motor
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The Vespa GTS 310 SuperTech comes in three colors:

White Innocente
Gray Ottimista matt
Blue Energico matt
Source: https://www.fulland-vespa-store.de/motorroller/vespa-gts-supertech-310
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