310 ready for EICMA:
https://www-insella-it.translate.goog/news/vespa-gts-310-il-super-vespone-pronto-eicma-62509?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fi&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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Oskuk wrote: 310 ready for EICMA: […] Therefore, the republication in the umpteenth online portal unfortunately does not bring any gain in knowledge. |
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With all that extra power being produced they should increase the number of those totally authentic cooling slots on the cowl.
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znomit wrote: With all that extra power being produced they should increase the number of those totally authentic cooling slots on the cowl. |
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When the 2023 model arrived in Australia it came from Vietnam and was Euro 4, with the old exhaust and just one catalyzer, but otherwise identical to the European model.
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I think the speed I update to the 310cc will be dependant on how many of my current accessories from my 2021 HPE will be compatible.
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Coddy wrote: I think the speed I update to the 310cc will be dependant on how many of my current accessories from my 2021 HPE will be compatible. Everything about the body, chassis and appearance fits 1:1 (compared to MY23). Only engine parts / exhaust will not fit, as we are talking about a completely newly developed engine. From the E5+ emissions standard, there are two lambda sensors (before and after catalytic converter). An important question should therefore be whether the markets outside EU (UK???) will also get the E5+ with two lambda sensors or just one as before. The exhaust issue will depend on this. Sportvario and other engine tuning will have to be redeveloped/adapted due to the new engine. |
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GermanGTSDriver wrote: What accessories are you thinking of? Everything about the body, chassis and appearance fits 1:1 (compared to MY23). Only engine parts / exhaust will not fit, as we are talking about a completely newly developed engine. From the E5+ emissions standard, there are two lambda sensors (before and after catalytic converter). An important question should therefore be whether the markets outside Europe will also get the E5+ with two lambda sensors or just one as before. The exhaust issue will depend on this. Sportvario and other engine tuning will have to be redeveloped/adapted due to the new engine. |
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Coddy wrote: I'm thinking of Oil Sight Gauge, Flyscreen, Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack, then there's my Carbon Exhaust Heat Shield and Carbon Transmission Cover. |
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Coddy wrote: I'm thinking of Oil Sight Gauge, Flyscreen, Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack, then there's my Carbon Exhaust Heat Shield and Carbon Transmission Cover. Oil pan (w/wo sight glas) Transmission cover Definitely yes: Flyscreen (MY23 and later), Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack Not testet: Heat Shield (and maybe depends on different exhausts in different markets) ⚠️ Last edited by GermanGTSDriver on UTC; edited 1 time
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GermanGTSDriver wrote: Definitely yes: Flyscreen, Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack |
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Halijaro wrote: I don't think a 2021 flyscreen will fit the new body style, RST22 onwards. The brackets are certainly different. I think the screen might be adaptable (i.e. trimmed), but that might just be me being optimistic. GermanGTSDriver wrote: Everything about the body, chassis and appearance fits 1:1 (compared to MY23). Only engine parts / exhaust will not fit, as we are talking about a completely newly developed engine. The following applies to compatibility from Pre-Facelift to MY23: The BIG Pre-FL to MY23 compatible / non-compatible Thread |
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GermanGTSDriver wrote: Definitely no: Oil pan (w/wo sight glas) Transmission cover https://vespaforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=64479 ⚠️ Last edited by SteelBytes on UTC; edited 1 time
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I have even intent on transferring my 'GTS250ie' side cowling badge over to my hypothetical 310.
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Halijaro wrote: I don't think a 2021 flyscreen will fit the new body style, RST22 onwards. The brackets are certainly different. I think the screen might be adaptable (i.e. trimmed), but that might just be me being optimistic. |
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SteelBytes wrote: GermanGTSDriver was comparing a 300/MY22('2023') vs a 310/MY24('2025') not a pre-300/MY22('2023') vs a 310/MY24('2025') when he compare the screen and brackets I'm thinking of Oil Sight Gauge, Flyscreen, Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack, then there's my Carbon Exhaust Heat Shield and Carbon Transmission Cover. To which GermanGTSDriver replied... Definitely yes: Flyscreen (MY23 and later), Folding Backrest, Front Rack and Floor Rack He has since edited the post to add the bracketed 'MY23 and later' to clarify. |
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Any thoughts on what the price for the new 310 might be?
Will the 'big' Vespa reach the 10G mark (USD) after dealer markups, etc? Whatever it is, I would likely have to spend $5000 over what my 24 hp 2020 GTS is worth to get that one-to-two more hp of the new model. Hmmm...I wonder if I could even get $4000 for my 2020 if I would decide to sell it? (which I am currently considering). |
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German Prices (including VAT) are 200€ up for GTS 310 Classic, Super, SuperSport.
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Same here in Spain, + 200€ on the standard GTS, GTS Super and GTS Super Sport prices.
I've ordered the GTS Super 310, no special offer as it's a new model, will be 7,299€. Dealer also told me he thinks they may not be doing the GTS Super Tech in 310. |
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Chazza wrote: Same here in Spain, + 200€ on the standard GTS, GTS Super and GTS Super Sport prices. I've ordered the GTS Super 310, no special offer as it's a new model, will be 7,299€. Dealer also told me he thinks they may not be doing the GTS Super Tech in 310. In Austria, the GTS 310 was advertised by the general importer there with a text that is presumably intended for the SuperTech... Quote: "the new 5-inch TFT display"... In addition to the rumors about a larger TFT display (which seems to be true), there are rumors about a new color: matte white (instead of one of the two shades of gray) for the SuperTech Tuesday we will know more... |
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Ok, I know that the 250/300 and now 310 range of scoots is a different breed than the 125/150s but beejeezus those are prices for a 26 hp iron
Mind, no mean feat that the Euro5+ 310 has more oompf, that is not my observation. Just that the step up is large. Makes me appreciate my dapper little red Primavera. |
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Carlos58 wrote: I know Jess. I loved the 2 strokes, but I do need reliability. |
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First pictures of new 2025 GTS 310 SuperTech:
https://vespaforum.de/viewtopic.php?p=885441#p885441 White SuperTech (Not white matt!!!) |
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znomit wrote: The chrome switchgear cancels out any engine upgrades. |
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znomit wrote: The chrome switchgear cancels out any engine upgrades.
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Official page up on the german site:
https://www.vespa.com/de_DE/models/gts/gts-supersport-310-hpe-2024/ Need engine is too ugly to show pictures of though. |
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znomit wrote: Official page up on the german site: https://www.vespa.com/de_DE/models/gts/gts-supersport-310-hpe-2024/ Need engine is too ugly to show pictures of though. |
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The Vespa GTS 310 SuperTech comes in three colors:
White Innocente Gray Ottimista matt Blue Energico matt Source: https://www.fulland-vespa-store.de/motorroller/vespa-gts-supertech-310 |
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Really like the blue Gts super sport. I was surprised to see the Impulsivo Orange dropped after only one year.
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