Modern Vespa

Hello-

I need help identifying this engine and which scooters it come from, dont even know the size but from the carb it might be a 125 or 150cc. [/img]

Not a Vespa engine, looks like a Minarelli / Yamaha / Suzuki type engine, probably started as a 50cc…

By the looks of it, maybe it was on an ATV??

Thanks, the seller said it's a Vespa engine, idk. He did said he plan to put it on his ATV then changes his mind.

mos def not a vespa engine.

likely Yamaha or some minarelli variant.

The only PHBL25's I've come across is Delortto open mouth carbs, is there any other serial numbers showing.
Also you would see Piaggio stamp marks.

It's a Minarelli. Came out of an ATV.

Here's a few more pictures with the only # on the whole thing.

Still a minarelli. Still came out of an ATV.

Here's the simplest way to know if a two stroke scooter engine is a Piaggio:

Count the bolts holding the intake manifold onto the engine. Are there two? It's a Piaggio. Are there more than two? It's not a Piaggio.

And if it has four bolts holding the intake manifold onto the engine, here's how you can tell if it's a Minarelli or a Morini:

Does it mount from the top of the engine? It's a Minarelli.
Does it mount from the bottom, like a Piaggio engine? It's a Morini.

So if your engine has four bolts holding the intake manifold on, and mounts from the top, it's going to be a Minarelli.

Thank you again Motovista-
So I got a 90cc Minarelli engine, from searching around my is a short case. Maybe one of these day I'll fine a donor scooter for that engine. Ben