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I had the worst thing that could happen involving the keyless remote on my new GTS Super Sport. I was riding yesterday and the low gas light came on, so I pulled in to a gas station.

I pushed the seat unlock button, but no go. I then felt my pocket and my fob was nowhere to be found. I called an Uber to get home so I could locate my fob. It wasn't in my garage so it fell out of my pocket somewhere Facepalm emoticon .

In a panic I set out to follow my route, which luckily I remembered it well. Incredible since I'm an old bastard. I drove through most of the route with a high heart rate. Low and behold I saw my keychain on the side of the road about a mile from the gas station where my scooter was stranded. I pulled over and put my 4 way flashers on. I picked it up and all the was on my keychain was the empty outer shell after being drove over by cars, nothing more. I kept looking while dodging cars and trucks. I found the circuit board which was slightly bent, then looked hard and found one button, then the other. While walking back I found the silicone piece that holds the board in place. The only thing missing is the aluminum end piece.

I then drove to the gas station where I left my Vespa. I reassembled the the remote in my car and tried it out. It worked!!

The only thing that doesn't work is the remote seat unlock.

My question is, how do I reprogram another remote without taking it to a dealer? I have no dealers close.

Sorry for the mini novel, but I feel very lucky.
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Molto Verboso
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Replacement '23 Vespa Remote fob

European part number: 1D004008
North American part number: 1D004096

Different SKU indicates a different part (possibly due to different radio technology or local approvals)!

Passive mini-tag (Master) required to teach-in replacement Fob! According to AF1-Racing, programming can only be carried out by a dealer with PADS: https://www.af1racing.com/prodimages/st3/1B004096_d7.pdf
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There's a reason "old-fashioned" ignition keys can't be removed without turning the vehicle off. That way you can't lose it while driving...

While we were in France last year, I saw a PTW rider pass me, with the remote control and top-box key on a ring in the top-box lock. Disaster waiting down the road...
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It's weird that you can't program a spare remote with the master tag. Instead it looks like you need the PADS software, which is available to dealers only.
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utahusker wrote:
It's weird that you can't program a spare remote with the master tag. Instead it looks like you need the PADS software, which is available to dealers only.
You need both: Master and PADS!
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The programming requiring PADS makes me think of the crap from John Deere ...
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utahusker wrote:
It's weird that you can't program a spare remote with the master tag. Instead it looks like you need the PADS software, which is available to dealers only.
Which is fine almost anywhere in Europe, where dealers are rarely that far away - but in the US, where you can be 400 miles or more from the nearest dealer it seems punitive.
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jimc wrote:
There's a reason "old-fashioned" ignition keys can't be removed without turning the vehicle off. That way you can't lose it while driving...
There's a reason why "new-fashioned" ignition keys cannot be locked in the vehicle (pet carrier). This way you save a lot of trouble and many hundreds of posts here on MV...

It's a sad thing that technical innovation always seems to have a negative connotation for some people. Not everything new is bad, not everything old is better. Nothing is as constant as change.
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SteelBytes wrote:
The programming requiring PADS makes me think of the crap from John Deere ...
Its not a bug, its a feature…
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Which is fine almost anywhere in Europe, where dealers are rarely that far away - but in the US, where you can be 400 miles or more from the nearest dealer it seems punitive.
Try Australia
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I've been wondering if a blank Piaggio chip key can be cloned to the remote or the supplied"chip coupon"? I was thinking that pressing the RFID chip against the legshield would be a suitable lower cost alternative to carrying and losing the fob or the chip coupon. As a bonus, the key could be cut to fit the top box.

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