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I'm a moron and didn't even know a Master Key was a thing. I've been using it since I got my Vespa about a year ago as my main key, purely by chance because it's what I grabbed to put on my carabiner.

Now I've misplaced my keys. I feel like it MUST be in my house somewhere but I'm starting to lose hope. In looking up how to get a replacement key just so I have backup... I learned about the Master Key and how you're supposed to keep it safe.

I am a ding dong. Biggest concern is I dropped it somewhere I go often and someone now has it waiting to see me park and lock my bike up again (the ring has the key for the big chain I use too, of course).

Anyways, given that I have the non-master key, is there any good way to replace the master? Or is it biting the bullet and paying the $3-400 that I see mentioned elsewhere on the forums?

Debating whether or not to treat it as burned if I can't find it just in case someone has it... seems like a risk.
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Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your first post, even if the occasion is unpleasant.

You can have the blue driving key cloned, then at least you'll have a replacement. When cloning, there is a residual risk that the clone will not be reliably recognized/function. And doesn't solve your worries that someone has the master and could hijack your Vespa.

A new master key (which can be used to program other driving keys) can only be created with a new or virginized ECU (there can only ever be one (1) master on an ECU).

It's best to keep searching and find...
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I bought a BV250 with only the blue key. For $55 Sportique Scooters cloned it. I've been using the cloned key for 10 months with not a hiccup. I believe it's a T5 chip in there. Not a big deal. Don't be so hard on yourself.
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A reminder to all reading this thread: go find your own master key - better now than when you need it
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I have a GTS 250 in my garage right now that belongs to a friend that was in the same situation. Best would be to find the Master key, of course. You can have the blue key cloned as mentioned for a back up. AF1 racing does this as a service for $40 plus shipping both ways.
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As above, just go for a clone. Good chance you won't even need that, though I have misplaced my keys already and took months (over winter) to find again. I fortunately did have a master which makes things quite a bit easier.

Don't feel bad about the loss. You're not the only moron here!
I swear, for a while I was on alert for not one, but two different items...I'd find one, then something else would go missing. Facepalm emoticon Fortunately it's been quiet here lately. Whew emoticon
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Thank you all! Yeah, I just couldn't believe it - I was just googling around looking into getting a replacement and then saw all the Master Key stuff haha, it was a good opportunity to laugh at myself a bit!
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popoulis wrote:
Thank you all! Yeah, I just couldn't believe it - I was just googling around looking into getting a replacement and then saw all the Master Key stuff haha, it was a good opportunity to laugh at myself a bit!
I bought my second hand BV300 with the daily blue key (which is actually black) and 2 clone keys (that are blue). But without the master key.
All 3 keys work.
At the time I also did not know a Piaggio comes with a master key.

Anyway, with respect to the keys, don't worry too much about not having that master key.
You cannot make a clone key yourself, but any decent key shop can make one from your non-master key. Have 2 clones made and check if they work before paying. And store them in house.

You worry someone would find your master key. I think your chain lock key is a bigger worry, at least when a finder has bad intentions and manages to locate the scooter it belongs to.
You have a spare key of that chain lock? Dispose of the chain lock and install a new one, and you will be fine.
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Don't sweat the master key...you'll find it eventually....

Likely a week after you sell/trade the scooter.... Crying or Very sad emoticon Crying or Very sad emoticon
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