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I'm hoping someone here can help me with upgrading my halogen bulb to led please, I'd greatly appreciate 🙏 😊 ☺️ ❤️

Thank you kindly!!!
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Whichever LED bulb you go for make sure it is the same diameter as the existing halogen / incandescent bulb because many of the aftermarket ones don't fit into the reflector unit especially those with finned heatsinks around the base.
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What size would I need, I appreciate your response. Is there anyone with a liberty that has converted to led here that could point to a bulb that fits possibly in a h4 series??
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I've used these H4 bulbs for several years in three Buddy 50s, and they are quite effective.

28W H4 LED Headlight Bulb COB Chip LED Motorcycle Headlight AC/DC 9-18V Motorcycle Lights Universal Moto Light Front Headlamp
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOIXSHm

Their most important feature is that braided metal heat sink, which can be easily pushed around to fit in the shallow headlight housing. As you've probably seen, most LED bulbs have a long, solid metal heat sink, which bumps into stuff behind the housing and basically won't fit.

The other benefit that isn't relevant to modern 150s is that it has an integral AC-to-DC converter. Small scooters often power the headlights using AC current directly from the stator. They don't use battery power when the key is turned on, and the headlight only comes on when the engine is started. LEDs don't work on AC the way a traditional incandescent bulb does, so that converter/rectifier is crucial.

Aside from illustrating the braided heat sink design, I am not positive that these AliExpress bulbs are ideal for Vespas, but I suspect they are. I bought a very similar-looking LED bulb from ScooterWest for my Vespa S150 several years ago…at substantially higher price. It works great but I don't know whether it's the same bulb that they just unboxed and dropped into their own plastic bag.

EDIT: the ScooterWest bulb is a little different, and doesn't have the AC-to-DC converter (so is not compatible with the Buddy 50cc AC headlight setup). I think it is somewhat brighter than the AliExpress bulb above. It is specifically recommended for the Liberty, too. I will say it has been excellent on my S150, and for $90, it oughtta be.
https://www.scooterwest.com/led-h4-headlight-kit-for-vespa-gt-gts-super-300-sprint-150-primavera-150.html

EDIT2: this looks closer to what ScooterWest is reselling. The lumen ratings are all over the place, who knows where the truth lies.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Fanless-Braid-style-motorcycle-headlight-K3_1601025747409.html
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Thank you!!
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I just ordered for $18.00. I so much appreciate both of your responses, thank you kindly!!!!

I'm so excited to get and install in my new liberty sport 150 2024. I just got today and the halogen is horrible compared to the other led lights

Thank you!!!
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Says 3-5 business days to receive

Thank you
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Kinda thinking I should have ordered from scooter west instead of alibaba, the lumens is 10x brighter???
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Owning both, as I do, as I said, the SW bulb is somewhat brighter, but there is no way it's 10x brighter.

Nor do I think it is 5x brighter, even though it is 5x more expensive.

If your $18 is committed, see how you like it. You can unload it on a Buddy 50 owner if you decide to trade up.
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I ended up buying from both places

Thank you again
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Please remember to update us here how the install goes. I have the same scooter and will likely just copy what you determine is best
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A little surprised to read that so many ride their Liberty in the dark.

Every one of my rides starts in the dark ...for the past 8 yrs.
I find the 60/55 halogen bulb quite good.
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OldSchooot wrote:
A little surprised to read that so many ride their Liberty in the dark.
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Shift work? When I was still working in the UK, for at least four months of the year I'd be riding to and from work in the dark - and that was a day job!
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Shift work? When I was still working in the UK, for at least four months of the year I'd be riding to and from work in the dark - and that was a day job!
True enough.....I've even read that a lot of folks will never ride in the rain!?

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Please remember to update us here how the install goes. I have the same scooter and will likely just copy what you determine is best
You mean you want to be enlightened?
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Running lights ate Led, headlight is halogen and a low quality unfortunately and puts put a yellowish beam.

I'm excited to get to swith it out, the light is important and more bright, even makes it safer for daylight also, so people see you

Have a great day and thank you for everyone helping me. I so much appreciate
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Day time riding is the main reason I have these. The 6000k can be seen so much better than the stock bulb. I find night time illumination is better as well. It does throw more light in a wider pattern than the stock bulb, but I like it better. I installed 6k LED running bulbs in my Genuine Buddy.
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Stock lighting on the Liberty150i is not exactly junk!
And it is focused as Piaggio designed....
Piaggio, having sold 900.000+ of this family of scootera, are doing something right.
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Stock lighting on the Liberty150i is not exactly junk!
And it is focused as Piaggio designed....
Piaggio, having sold 900.000+ of this family of scootera, are doing something right.
Piaggio also designs to a price point. These bulbs are way more expensive so not surprising they do not include them on our bargain bin scooters lol.
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One of the reviews on SW suggests Liberty maybe not be a good fit:

Kris S
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05/05/2021

Good quality product I was very impressed with this product and the video that robot presented on YouTube about the installation. I acquired this for my 2021 Piaggio liberty 150s, however it wasn't quite a good fit for that. This will fit the proper Vespas as indicated in the description, I wasn't sure for my scooter, but as always, ScooterWest was great to work with for my return.
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This guy doesn't know how to install the Led from Scooterwest because with just taking off the 2 tabs off the ring it goes right in perfectly amd it's 12,000 lumens not 2,800 from Aliexpress which ai bought both. Definitely get from Scooterwest it's worth the extra money no question

So if wondering what to get for a piaggio liberty 2024 150 S no question get from Scooterwest

Thank you everyone for responding but it's confirmed by me on install of both

Have a great day!!!
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Scottspeters wrote:
This guy doesn't know how to install the Led from Scooterwest because with just taking off the 2 tabs off the ring it goes right in perfectly amd it's 12,000 lumens not 2,800 from Aliexpress which ai bought both. Definitely get from Scooterwest it's worth the extra money no question

So if wondering what to get for a piaggio liberty 2024 150 S no question get from Scooterwest

Thank you everyone for responding but it's confirmed by me on install of both

Have a great day!!!
Could you share a pic of the headlight shining against a wall at night? I'm curious if it has a nice cutoff as to not blind oncoming traffic.
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