The very best Cosa style clutch in the market.
You will need to remove the rib on the inside clutch cover; otherwise fits just fine with no other adjustments.
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The very best Cosa style clutch in the market.
You will need to remove the rib on the inside clutch cover; otherwise fits just fine with no other adjustments. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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GickSpeed wrote: The very best Cosa style clutch in the market. You will need to remove the rib on the inside clutch cover; otherwise fits just fine with no other adjustments.
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BajaRob wrote: Can you enlighten me on that release plate/bearing? Haven't seen that one. I got a bearing style one from SIP and the bearing was crap. Just want the best for my money. Function first style last for me. Thank you.
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GickSpeed wrote: it comes with the clutch. It's a bearing and it works. clutch design itself is better that the other Cosa style clutches in the market. . . . |
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Mine is on the way. My very first non-stock clutch. I just noticed the pressure plate/bearing arrangement. Looks pretty slick.
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orwell84 wrote: Mine is on the way. My very first non-stock clutch. I just noticed the pressure plate/bearing arrangement. Looks pretty slick. |
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GickSpeed wrote: You are going to love it!
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Fix_it_with_fire wrote: Thanks to gick got mine installed today! |
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GickSpeed wrote: pics or it did not happen. Seems great, clutch is smooth in actuation and extremely well made, but I must be fudging the adjustment somehow because my kick start stopped working despite the clutch operating perfectly.... Very confused. I was able to just bump start it and ride home totally normal, clutch is grand.. But no kicky... I'll revisit the lever cable and clutch cover another day unless you have something up your sleeve ![]() Silver Falls State Park. Can't beat the Oregon country side
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Fix_it_with_fire wrote: No pics of install, I put it in the scoot, and rode about 75 miles before my lady showed up. Seems great, clutch is smooth in actuation and extremely well made, but I must be fudging the adjustment somehow because my kick start stopped working despite the clutch operating perfectly.... Very confused. I was able to just bump start it and ride home totally normal, clutch is grand.. But no kicky... I'll revisit the lever cable and clutch cover another day unless you have something up your sleeve |
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GickSpeed wrote: The very best Cosa style clutch in the market. The bearing pressure plate is nice, although I wonder if the lubrication in that area is as well-served as say, the PK? Heard of a few on largeframes that have collapsed or seized or whatever... mine caused quite a bit of damage. |
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c17age wrote: Gick what's the spacer size you have in there? Thanks |
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Ginch wrote: Have you done many miles on it? Interested to hear your opinion on how and why it's better than (say) the BGM superstrong. The bearing pressure plate is nice, although I wonder if the lubrication in that area is as well-served as say, the PK? Heard of a few on largeframes that have collapsed or seized or whatever... mine caused quite a bit of damage.
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GickSpeed wrote: Adjustment is the same as any clutch. Pretty nifty item I must say, I would agree that it is extreme quality. The VMC parts are taking over my scooter |
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Mine arrived Monday (ordered Thursday the week before) from RDV scooter shop in Italy. That's fast. Shipping was $40, which was about the same as the VAT, which was removed.
It appears to be really well made and much lighter than expected even knowing it's aluminum. Always wondered about the effect of running a heavy clutch with or without a lightened flywheel. Definitely looking forward to trying this out. |
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orwell84 wrote: Mine arrived Monday (ordered Thursday the week before) from RDV scooter shop in Italy. That's fast. Shipping was $40, which was about the same as the VAT, which was removed. It appears to be really well made and much lighter than expected even knowing it's aluminum. Always wondered about the effect of running a heavy clutch with or without a lightened flywheel. Definitely looking forward to trying this out. |
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hibbert wrote: That was quick! Did yours come with the bearing pressure plate? |
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orwell84 wrote: Mine arrived Monday (ordered Thursday the week before) from RDV scooter shop in Italy. That's fast. Shipping was $40, which was about the same as the VAT, which was removed. |
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Here's mine. It came in a plastic bag from SIP. No release bearing. Maybe just the newer ones come with it. Can't find just the bearing for sale.😒
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BajaRob wrote: Here's mine. It came in a plastic bag from SIP. No release bearing. Maybe just the newer ones come with it. Can't find just the bearing for sale.😒 |
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GickSpeed wrote: when did you buy it? The new ones should be coming with the new bearing plate. |
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BajaRob wrote: Here's mine. It came in a plastic bag from SIP. No release bearing. Maybe just the newer ones come with it. Can't find just the bearing for sale.😒 |
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Fix_it_with_fire wrote: I'll send you my SIP roller one of you want it for free... I didn't have any issues with it but I know some people aren't fans |
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BajaRob wrote: Thanks but I'm just going with the stock one. I bought the SIP one and it was crap. I think running the stock plate will give me better peace of mind!😆 I'm sure that vmc will bring theirs to market soon it's a fantastic item no reason they wouldn't |
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Mine arrived yesterday in box with bearing. Total was about 190 GBP from ve-uk no vat and no import tax either. It's sitting on the shelf for the next scoot. That'll be a sprint veloce so has anyone upgraded to a quick tourer that's still nippy around town? If so what specs ? Looking at an aluminum VMC Chrono top end but keeping it at 177. Any thoughts or advise is appreciated.
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c17age wrote: Looking at an aluminum VMC Chrono top end but keeping it at 177. Any thoughts or advise is appreciated. P125x cases matched to VMC crono cylinder 60mm Mazz k2d crank unmodified VMC clutch DRT 23/65 BFA cruciform Vape ignition Mallosi rotary intake Phbh 28 And I had a Mallosi exhaust but it broke off the other day so I'm the market for something new ![]() All that said, a stock p200 would be the best tourer hahaha |
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Is that correct that the VMC is about 300 grams lighter than the SIP clutch?!!! Any idea what the weight difference is between a standard piaggio Cosa clutch and the VMC?
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c17age wrote: Mine arrived yesterday in box with bearing. Total was about 190 GBP from ve-uk no vat and no import tax either. It's sitting on the shelf for the next scoot. That'll be a sprint veloce so has anyone upgraded to a quick tourer that's still nippy around town? If so what specs ? Looking at an aluminum VMC Chrono top end but keeping it at 177. Any thoughts or advise is appreciated. |
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I just got my VMC clutch from SIP this afternoon. I don't know what to think about it just yet. SIP's description says that it's CNC aluminum. Aluminum my ass. It's made out of heavy steel. All the laser cut steel plates all need filing in order to fit over the clutch gear cog as well. https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/clutch-vmc-cosa-2-sport-ergal-10-molle-for-clutch-cosa-2-for-vespa-px125-200-e-lusso-95-98-my-11-cosa-2_93246120?usrc=vmc%20clutch
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I don't know Italian, but acier is steel in French. I think your clutch says 10 spring steel on it.
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I guess you could check you have the right version by the weight... SIP say the Ergal/aluminium version is 840g, and the steel version 1.23
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orwell84 wrote: I don't know Italian, but acier is steel in French. I think your clutch says 10 spring steel on it. |
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