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The very best Cosa style clutch in the market.

You will need to remove the rib on the inside clutch cover; otherwise fits just fine with no other adjustments.
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The very best Cosa style clutch in the market.

You will need to remove the rib on the inside clutch cover; otherwise fits just fine with no other adjustments.
Can you enlighten me on that release plate/bearing? Haven't seen that one. I got a bearing style one from SIP and the bearing was crap. Just want the best for my money. Function first style last for me. Thank you.
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Can you enlighten me on that release plate/bearing? Haven't seen that one. I got a bearing style one from SIP and the bearing was crap. Just want the best for my money. Function first style last for me. Thank you.
it comes with the clutch. It's a bearing and it works. clutch design itself is better that the other Cosa style clutches in the market. . . .
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it comes with the clutch. It's a bearing and it works. clutch design itself is better that the other Cosa style clutches in the market. . . .
I got denied then when I ordered mine! 😭 Bummer.
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Mine is on the way. My very first non-stock clutch. I just noticed the pressure plate/bearing arrangement. Looks pretty slick.
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Mine is on the way. My very first non-stock clutch. I just noticed the pressure plate/bearing arrangement. Looks pretty slick.
You are going to love it!
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You are going to love it!
I don't doubt it. I trust your opinion because in some ways you are old school without being a stock purist. At the same time, you appreciate new technology without being impressed by bling. The Vespa aftermarket is confusing because it is a mix of diamonds, shiny turds and hype.
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Damn it! More shiny bitchin cool stuff to buy for the beast........
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Thanks to gick got mine installed today!
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Thanks to gick got mine installed today!
pics or it did not happen.
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Is that thrust bearing plate based on ball bearings?
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pics or it did not happen.
No pics of install, I put it in the scoot, and rode about 75 miles before my lady showed up.

Seems great, clutch is smooth in actuation and extremely well made, but I must be fudging the adjustment somehow because my kick start stopped working despite the clutch operating perfectly.... Very confused. I was able to just bump start it and ride home totally normal, clutch is grand.. But no kicky... I'll revisit the lever cable and clutch cover another day unless you have something up your sleeve
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No pics of install, I put it in the scoot, and rode about 75 miles before my lady showed up.

Seems great, clutch is smooth in actuation and extremely well made, but I must be fudging the adjustment somehow because my kick start stopped working despite the clutch operating perfectly.... Very confused. I was able to just bump start it and ride home totally normal, clutch is grand.. But no kicky... I'll revisit the lever cable and clutch cover another day unless you have something up your sleeve
Adjustment is the same as any clutch.
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Adjustment is the same as any clutch.
Yeah..i know.. I'll keep trying
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Gick what's the spacer size you have in there? Thanks
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The very best Cosa style clutch in the market.
Have you done many miles on it? Interested to hear your opinion on how and why it's better than (say) the BGM superstrong.

The bearing pressure plate is nice, although I wonder if the lubrication in that area is as well-served as say, the PK? Heard of a few on largeframes that have collapsed or seized or whatever... mine caused quite a bit of damage.
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Gick what's the spacer size you have in there? Thanks
Standard spacer for Rally in the pic above.
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Have you done many miles on it? Interested to hear your opinion on how and why it's better than (say) the BGM superstrong.

The bearing pressure plate is nice, although I wonder if the lubrication in that area is as well-served as say, the PK? Heard of a few on largeframes that have collapsed or seized or whatever... mine caused quite a bit of damage.
Not my work, but here is a decent review-

I cannot speak about the pressure plate; too new. Let me get a couple thousand miles on it.
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Adjustment is the same as any clutch.
Endied up removing 0.2mm washer that made the last clutch work and everything turned out A-OK

Pretty nifty item I must say, I would agree that it is extreme quality. The VMC parts are taking over my scooter
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Mine arrived Monday (ordered Thursday the week before) from RDV scooter shop in Italy. That's fast. Shipping was $40, which was about the same as the VAT, which was removed.

It appears to be really well made and much lighter than expected even knowing it's aluminum. Always wondered about the effect of running a heavy clutch with or without a lightened flywheel. Definitely looking forward to trying this out.
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Mine arrived Monday (ordered Thursday the week before) from RDV scooter shop in Italy. That's fast. Shipping was $40, which was about the same as the VAT, which was removed.

It appears to be really well made and much lighter than expected even knowing it's aluminum. Always wondered about the effect of running a heavy clutch with or without a lightened flywheel. Definitely looking forward to trying this out.
That was quick! Did yours come with the bearing pressure plate?
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That was quick! Did yours come with the bearing pressure plate?
I think so. It's the red circle with the spinny thing inside, right?
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Mine arrived Monday (ordered Thursday the week before) from RDV scooter shop in Italy. That's fast. Shipping was $40, which was about the same as the VAT, which was removed.
That's great to hear! So far I haven't struck a single Italian seller who is willing to remove the VAT, even though they are not required to collect it for sales outside the EU. Seems they can't be bothered. Perhaps RDV has realised that there actually is a market outside Italy and that shops like SIP and SCK are easily taking the lion's share of non-EU sales.
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Ve-uk selling these for 170GBP vat removed plus about 25 shipping to NC.
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Here's mine. It came in a plastic bag from SIP. No release bearing. Maybe just the newer ones come with it. Can't find just the bearing for sale.😒
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Here's mine. It came in a plastic bag from SIP. No release bearing. Maybe just the newer ones come with it. Can't find just the bearing for sale.😒
when did you buy it? The new ones should be coming with the new bearing plate.
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when did you buy it? The new ones should be coming with the new bearing plate.
Got mine February 7th this year.
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Got mine February 7th this year.
yup. Their bearing plate was not out then.
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Here's mine. It came in a plastic bag from SIP. No release bearing. Maybe just the newer ones come with it. Can't find just the bearing for sale.😒
I'll send you my SIP roller one of you want it for free... I didn't have any issues with it but I know some people aren't fans
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I'll send you my SIP roller one of you want it for free... I didn't have any issues with it but I know some people aren't fans
Thanks but I'm just going with the stock one. I bought the SIP one and it was crap. I think running the stock plate will give me better peace of mind!😆
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Thanks but I'm just going with the stock one. I bought the SIP one and it was crap. I think running the stock plate will give me better peace of mind!😆
The VMC is made alot smarter, although both use the same type of bearing, (the kind used in skateboard wheels) , the VMC uses a sealed bearing vs the SIP non sealed. and you can use the stock plunger thingy with the VMC as well, which is integral with the newer version of the SIP unit.

I'm sure that vmc will bring theirs to market soon it's a fantastic item no reason they wouldn't
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Three on the shelf. Now comes in a box.
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Mine arrived yesterday in box with bearing. Total was about 190 GBP from ve-uk no vat and no import tax either. It's sitting on the shelf for the next scoot. That'll be a sprint veloce so has anyone upgraded to a quick tourer that's still nippy around town? If so what specs ? Looking at an aluminum VMC Chrono top end but keeping it at 177. Any thoughts or advise is appreciated.
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Looking at an aluminum VMC Chrono top end but keeping it at 177. Any thoughts or advise is appreciated.
Obviously YMMV and everyone has opinions of what a sporty tourer would be, but here's my setup as I can recall right now

P125x cases matched to VMC crono cylinder
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And I had a Mallosi exhaust but it broke off the other day so I'm the market for something new Facepalm emoticon


All that said, a stock p200 would be the best tourer hahaha
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Is that correct that the VMC is about 300 grams lighter than the SIP clutch?!!! Any idea what the weight difference is between a standard piaggio Cosa clutch and the VMC?
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Mine arrived yesterday in box with bearing. Total was about 190 GBP from ve-uk no vat and no import tax either. It's sitting on the shelf for the next scoot. That'll be a sprint veloce so has anyone upgraded to a quick tourer that's still nippy around town? If so what specs ? Looking at an aluminum VMC Chrono top end but keeping it at 177. Any thoughts or advise is appreciated.
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