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I am losing my minds trying to get the shift cables on my '59 to work properly. The problem is that either the top hat pops out of the bracket on the upper cable or else the ball end pops out of the bell crank. After a few times what happens is that the cable gets kinked by the ball end and then its even more likely top pop out. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I am at my wits end. Are these 50+ year old parts just worn with too much slop?

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Hal, make sure the cable end can rotate freely in the hole and the cable guide area below the end might be smashed in a little. You can pry it open. That cable should fit in there without kinking. If the end is jammed, drill the hole to the right size. Rob
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Looking at your picture, the cable end isn't properly seated into the shift arm. When it's in place, the cable will run between the two sides, locking it in place.

Then, once there's tension on the shifter cables, that will hold the outers into the top hat.
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The problem is that they wont stay seated in there. Shifting into 1st causes the ball end to pop out because the slot that accepts the cable in the cam is aligned with 1st gear position. In the photo, i'm in neutral.
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The problem is that they wont stay seated in there. Shifting into 1st causes the ball end to pop out because the slot that accepts the cable in the cam is aligned with 1st gear position. In the photo, i'm in neutral.
Is the shift arm on backwards? the slot to fit the cable in should face forward, I think.
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I will pull it out and see if the other way makes a difference.

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Ok so looking at one of these gear cams, does the open part of the curve (if it was a "C") face toward the headlight or toward the taillight?

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someone turn on the bat Gickspeed signal.
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Ok so looking at one of these gear cams, does the open part of the curve (if it was a "C") face toward the headlight or toward the taillight?

Hal
I think CM nailed it. Your cam looks backwards.
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And your shift tube is 180 degrees out of sync, from what I'm seeing....
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chandlerman wrote:
Is the shift arm on backwards? the slot to fit the cable in should face forward, I think.
This.
Pull the clip out of the tube and rotate the cam 180.
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Flipping the cam fixed everythign up just right. The photo on the scooterhelp website shows it the other way, which is how I ended up here.

https://www.scooterhelp.com/genmaintain/vespa.gear.cables.html

One step forward, thanks all!

Hal
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