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Hi to everyone, my name is Nikola, i live in Key West FL and unfortunately for me i lost my only scooter key that i have with scooter locked.

As i understand i just need to take out ECU and ship it and get new coded key and ECU back, but the problem is i can't open scooter glove box because front wheel is locked ( i locked scooter).

We do have vespa dealership here but they are asking 550 +- to make a new key plus I'll need to pay for towing there another 125 .

Is there any way you can help and give me instructions how to open glove box without a key so i can gain the access to ECU. Or any suggestion will be much appreciated.
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vuksa86 wrote:
Hi to everyone, my name is Nikola, i live in Key West FL and unfortunately for me i lost my only scooter key that i have with scooter locked.

As i understand i just need to take out ECU and ship it and get new coded key and ECU back, but the problem is i can't open scooter glove box because front wheel is locked ( i locked scooter).

We do have vespa dealership here but they are asking 550 +- to make a new key plus I'll need to pay for towing there another 125 .

Is there any way you can help and give me instructions how to open glove box without a key so i can gain the access to ECU. Or any suggestion will be much appreciated.
You can remove the Piaggio badge, then the horn cover and use a hook tool to pull on the tab that opens the glove box
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Vesp-ah wrote:
You can remove the Piaggio badge, then the horn cover and use a hook tool to pull on the tab that opens the glove box
This ^^^^

The best tool is a very stiff wire coat-hanger, bent appropriately to fish its way to the front of the steering column to engage the latch.
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Thank you'all, I'll give it a shot this Sunday will post pictures 📸.
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Does the 50CC have coded keys and immobilizer?
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If it's a Primavera 50, stop what you are doing. You don't need to remove the ECU and send it off anywhere.

This is all you need to get up and running.

https://scooterpartsco.com/300-piaggio-c-801_836/lock-and-key-set-for-vespa-piaggio-1b000570-p-36484.html

And this is all you need if you want to fix it for less than $25.

https://scooterpartsco.com/main-category-c-801_4181_4187/keys-and-tumblers-for-vespa-piaggio-aprilia-cheap-p-37141.html
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That is probably THE most helpful and encouraging technical post I've ever seen on any bike forum!
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You guys are amazing, apparently vespa primavera doesn't have immobilizer so i don't need to code the key and send ecu. Thank you all very much
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I just need to drill the lock so i can unlock it and open a glovebox, do i drill directly in to lock or there is specific angle?
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I just need to drill the lock so i can unlock it and open a glovebox, do i drill directly in to lock or there is specific angle?
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Thank you jimc thank you Motovista, i ordered the lock today, ill try to figure out and change the lock next week, i will keep you updated. I really appreciate all of your help, considering i almost ended up paying 700$ in total for this. Key West is crazy with prices
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I just need to drill the lock so i can unlock it and open a glovebox, do i drill directly in to lock or there is specific angle?
earlier post told you how to open the glove box with a coat hanger. but you can drill away if you so desire
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But as i understand i can not take out the tumbler if it's not unlocked or i can. That's why i was considering drilling before using the hanger, because anyones i will need to drill or not?
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earlier post told you how to open the glove box with a coat hanger. but you can drill away if you so desire
They're not needing to open the glovebox to gain access to the ECU - they just need to install a new lockset. As the ignition lock is LOCKED, it must be drilled out as above.
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They're not needing to open the glovebox to gain access to the ECU - they just need to install a new lockset. As the ignition lock is LOCKED, it must be drilled out as above.
ok but to install the new locks set properly you still need to open the glove box and remove the panels to install the new one, so why not make a clean removal remove the panels and just disassemble the lock from the back side?

or take the gamble on drilling it and making an oops
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ok but to install the new locks set properly you still need to open the glove box and remove the panels to install the new one, so why not make a clean removal remove the panels and just disassemble the lock from the back side?

or take the gamble on drilling it and making an oops
A locked barrel cannot be removed without drilling out.
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So far no luck, i drilled as much as u could with 18v electric drill, battery is out, but this is my progress so far.
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That doesn't look centered - and have you gone in 30mm?
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30mm / 3 cm as per instructions, I'm not sure if it's centered well, only thing I'm concerned about. Should i drill the inside more?
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30mm / 3 cm as per instructions, I'm not sure if it's centered well, only thing I'm concerned about. Should i drill the inside more?
8 that's EIGHT mm, not 3! If not centered, go up to 10mm. What you *don't* want to do is to damage the outer shell where the pins locate when locked. The whole idea is to destroy and/or enable the release of the pins and springs from the center barrel so it can be withdrawn.
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30mm deep, with 8mm drill, I'll try with 10mm drill tomorrow, need to recharge the battery.
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What happens if i fucked it up 😅🤦‍♂️
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You can't be far away! I'd have thought you'd have needed to have removed the glovebox and surround to get to the clips - but I could be wrong. I know I did the one and only time I drilled out a lock, but that was many many moons ago. This will entail releasing the glovebox - a stout wire coat-hanger can be brought into play here.
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