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looking for a little help, my rear wheel is spinnng rather fast when on center stand when idling. Clutch prob?
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How many miles are on your scooter? The small springs dictate when the clutch engages. You need to pull it a part and have a look.
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Agree with Abner, but it may just need a clean up. Open it up and do a good inspection of the belt, rollers, clutch bell and pads. Meanwhile, if it is not jumpy when running, off the stand and sitting on it, I don't think it's worth worry about too much.
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Tierney wrote: Agree with Abner, but it may just need a clean up. Open it up and do a good inspection of the belt, rollers, clutch bell and pads. Meanwhile, if it is not jumpy when running, off the stand and sitting on it, I don't think it's worth worry about too much. |
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Abner_Bjorn wrote: How many miles are on your scooter? The small springs dictate when the clutch engages. You need to pull it a part and have a look. |
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You don't really need any special tools. Take it off the centerstand and have a fat chick sit on the bike and gently squeeze both brake levers. The clutch nut will come right off.
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Abner_Bjorn wrote: You don't really need any special tools. Take it off the centerstand and have a fat chick sit on the bike and gently squeeze both brake levers. The clutch nut will come right off. |
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wbdvt wrote: Don't use impact wrench to reinstall! Use a torque wrench But yes, no impact tools for installation! |
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wbdvt wrote: Don't use impact wrench to reinstall! Use a torque wrench |
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In my experience the rear wheel spins whenever the engine is running and the bike is on the center stand. I push the sole of my shoe against the side of the spinning tire and, if I can stop the tire pretty easily, it's all good. If you can sit on the scooter with the engine running, no brakes, and it doesn't try to creep forward, you're ok.
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wentwest wrote: In my experience the rear wheel spins whenever the engine is running and the bike is on the center stand. I push the sole of my shoe against the side of the spinning tire and, if I can stop the tire pretty easily, it's all good. If you can sit on the scooter with the engine running, no brakes, and it doesn't try to creep forward, you're ok. Test this before disassembling anything. But there was one thing Highhook wrote that is abnormal: "when i roll the bike backwards the rear tire starts to lock up" That should not be.
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wentwest wrote: In my experience the rear wheel spins whenever the engine is running and the bike is on the center stand. I push the sole of my shoe against the side of the spinning tire and, if I can stop the tire pretty easily, it's all good. If you can sit on the scooter with the engine running, no brakes, and it doesn't try to creep forward, you're ok. |
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Time to open it up and take a look. I'd not be surprised to find a broken or dislodged clutch shoe spring.
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jimc wrote: Time to open it up and take a look. I'd not be surprised to find a broken or dislodged clutch shoe spring. |
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jimc wrote: Time to open it up and take a look. I'd not be surprised to find a broken or dislodged clutch shoe spring. And would also explain why the rear wheel tends to lock up when you go backwards. |
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Thank you all, for the responses, they were very helpful. After removing the variator and clutch, it ended up just being some maintenance.
The roller and tabs changed in variator. Tabs loose and rollers worn. New belt, old one probably still good Clutch pack with new lg spring installed O rings and oil seals changed and regreased The clutch seemed very worn, also noticed clutch nut was touching bell housing The old spring was at least 1/2 inch shorter the new one I installed Seals and O-rings good, grease was shot Don't know if clutch nut loosened, or was not torqued correctly All in all, no more clanging, no more creeping, quiet and smooth ride. |
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