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Some 750.000; seven hundred and fifty THOUSAND, sold yet sought after and accordingly valued?
Why?!
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Because they are special ?
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Because they are special ?
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Plastic horn cover, square headlight, four speed gear box, Primavera hubs and elestart version - sounds special enough as for me.
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Plastic horn cover, square headlight, four speed gear box, Primavera hubs and elestart version - sounds special enough as for me.
Only partway into the second of the three series they grew a 4th gear. Primavera hubs ditto (the first series had 4 bolt 9 inch wheels). Elestart too was an evolution ánd also optional.

Plastic horn covers are pretty much standard starting P series no?!

The ´chrome yellow´ (like yours) I think über btw.
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In Tower Heist 2011 the Ferrari was solid gold painted Red.

Some people have so much money they could heat their house with it, in a fireplace and not even notice it gone.

I worked for a guy that bought crazy stuff under his LLC, called it a business expense.

Money Laundering
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Plastic horn covers are pretty much standard starting P series no?!
I think we talking about smallies here
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The ´chrome yellow´ (like yours) I think über btw.
It is not chrome yellow unfortunately. It was repainted by unknown owner.
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I think we talking about smallies here
Was referring to the time frame; my apologies for not expressing that more clearly.
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It is not chrome yellow unfortunately. It was repainted by unknown owner.
Well lóóks cool though.
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As seen elsewhere on the Interwebs…
Taste the rainbow.
Taste the rainbow.
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They're better looking…

A very "Special" project
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They're better looking…

Special project indeed!

Hat off in awe.
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To be honest my first Vespa was a small body like that, I painted it Aqua with a matching seat with white. Of course the first thing I did was take off the signals.
I was right around the corner from One Step Beyond in Santa Clara Ca.
I think it was a 90 or 125?? ICR
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Plastic horncast on a smallie just looks wrong to me
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The lack of speed with 50cc engine is even more wrong though.
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How about 50 SR ?

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How about 50 SR ?

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That is exactly the same colour as my '76 VBC. Any idea of the paint code?
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That is exactly the same colour as my '76 VBC. Any idea of the paint code?
Looks like Beige 580 (Max Meyer 1.298.3580)…
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it is dressed in Beige Versailles, a color only the first 100 examples wore
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I never did get the smallie special, its like a bastard lovechild between a small frame and a PK, with that cheap plastic nose.

in the Netherlands a normal small frame is easily 30% more expensive than a special.
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I never did get the smallie special, its like a bastard lovechild between a small frame and a PK, with that cheap plastic nose.

in the Netherlands a normal small frame is easily 30% more expensive than a special.
On itself I like the concept but loath the plastic.
There is no discussing taste though. Some like the mother, some like the daughter, some both. As to Vespas I for some odd, perverse, reason like the lines of the PK50n; they flow.

Value wise it is weird, hence my post. Over here they are móre expensive. Quite a lot even. In Italy they are (still) affordable but in the light of production numbers should be cheaper really.

I suspect it is a wonderful mix of specific country (how common or not they are) ease of tuneability (great availability of go faster bits) and nostalgia.
As to the country, Spain is a striking example as the 50 Special is on average 50% more expensive than 75 models whereas some are just about the same but quicker and MotoVespa only!
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I never did get the smallie special, its like a bastard lovechild between a small frame and a PK, with that cheap plastic nose.

How about PL 170 with METAL nose?
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How about PL 170 with METAL nose?
Thanks for sharing that one. No such model in Spain´s MotoVespa line up.

As to the 50 Special nose, for me it is that in the grey guise it stands out mismatching as a being a plastic nose. Some will undoubtedly líke it for standing out. It is such with taste.
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I never did get the smallie special, its like a bastard lovechild between a small frame and a PK, with that cheap plastic nose.

in the Netherlands a normal small frame is easily 30% more expensive than a special.
As with most Vespas, you tend to love the models that say something about your 'era'. In the UK in the early to mid '80s, a 50 Special was the one to have if you were 16 years old and getting into the scooter scene.

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