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I wonder to get a lifting device to lift my GTS300.
In this case because I want to check the valve clearance since I have some issues when the engine is cold, so I think the clearance is too tight.
I have done the adjustment not long time ago, and I could be it to tight. That time I lived in a house where I had my own garage with possible to make some things to lift the scooter so the access was ok, now I live in a apartment with a big garage for several cars and no possible to make this lifting thing with something staying round. So then I was thinking of buying a lifting device and I want to ask what the members think it's best.

Picture 1 is the one I thinking most of, since it's probably the one where the scooter will be standing best on, also the most expensive.

Picture 2 is half of the price of the other and I think it maybe make the scooter more wobbly when it's lifted up
Looks to be the one make the scooter most steady, it's also the most expensive one and take most place in my stall
Looks to be the one make the scooter most steady, it's also the most expensive one and take most place in my stall
Looks easier to store, not so steady, but cheaper. Can also be mounted to a 2" x 8" to make it more steady
Looks easier to store, not so steady, but cheaper. Can also be mounted to a 2" x 8" to make it more steady
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I have the second. You can take those two things off the top. It's stable - very.
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I have the second. You can take those two things off the top. It's stable - very.
I know those on top can be demounted
Do you do anything else then just put it under and lift it up?
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Depending on where I'm lifting for what purpose i also have to anchor the front down.

Keep in mind that two thirds of the weight of a Vespa is over the back wheel.

eg If lifting the front wheel then just stick it under the front of the floor.

If removing the engine then anchor the front wheel and lift at the rear of the floor where the swingarm is.
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Depending on where I'm lifting for what purpose i also have to anchor the front down.

Keep in mind that two thirds of the weight of a Vespa is over the back wheel.

eg If lifting the front wheel then just stick it under the front of the floor.

If removing the engine then anchor the front wheel and lift at the rear of the floor where the swingarm is.
If I go for the second one I will probably make something like this to mountie to and to anchor front wheel to then it will be steady also
From this post: My DIY Knock-Down Work Stand
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If I go for the second one I will probably make something like this to mountie to and to anchor front wheel to then it will be steady also
From this post: My DIY Knock-Down Work Stand
Probably better solution than using the first lift. With the first I'd be worried that even strapping the scoot to the lift before lifting that it would still tip backwards due to engine + cvt etc weight (unless disconnecting rear suspension ect first).
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This is for a valve adjustment? You don't need any of the above. Place your center stand on some 2x scrap, and un-bolt the shocks at the top. From this point, you can rotate the engine by hand.
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I have an orange version of the second one. It's even worked fine for my Bonneville, which is substantially heavier than the GTS. Both were perfectly stable on it. Granted I wasn't torquing things to 309 ft-lbs or anything but....worked fine for general maintenance.
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I've had both of those lifts.

The top one is really for motorcycles. It works only OK for scooters but didn't lift up all that high, and takes up a lot of space in the garage when not used. It just wasn't worth it, and I sold it to a motorcycle owner.

The second one is at least as useful, if not more useful, for scooters and is far more efficient in the space that it takes up. I will say, though, that the one in your photo looks very narrow. The base of the one I have seems to be wider.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GCF78NN/?th=1

As Abner mentioned a lift is not really necessary for a valve adjustment.
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https://amazon.com/dp/B0C4KQGQ92/
I have this and used it to lift my 900lbs cruiser and to lift my little lx50. Both worked very well. It also is small for storage.
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I have the second one.
Using it on my VROD because the 2 supports catch the frame first. Mine has holes on the base for the "safety pin" to avoid a failure.
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Abner_Bjorn wrote:
This is for a valve adjustment? You don't need any of the above. Place your center stand on some 2x scrap, and un-bolt the shocks at the top. From this point, you can rotate the engine by hand.
Nice to see that it's possible with only some "scrap" that's cheapest and easiest to store
Thanks for the tip
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I have a plethora of vehicle lifting devices, including a well-used, decade old, Harbor Freight lift table.

Not adding anything particularly constructive to this topic....just wanted to appear boastful.
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Was hoping someone would ask so I don't have to risk sounding like a dope, but where do you place a scissors jack ? Under the engine near the center stand ?
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Was hoping someone would ask so I don't have to risk sounding like a dope, but where do you place a scissors jack ? Under the engine near the center stand ?
You place it where the center of gravity of the bike is. In the case of a Vespa, you place it in front of the center stand. Always look under your bike before placing your jack, look for a flat zone where you will not crush something important (like your pipes!)
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For this job, I used the scissors jack with the rubber-topped, broader platform to lift the rear end. I also secured the front wheel in the chock this time.

I don't remember why I didn't just have the scooter on its centerstand, but apparently needed more lift height than that would have provided, so the jack was used. This might have been when I was going to check the valve clearance and needed the engine/swingarm to pivot as far down as possible.
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You place it where the center of gravity of the bike is.
Yes - AND you think very carefully about where the center of gravity will be as you're working on it! If you take off a wheel, or an exhaust, or a front fork, the scooter can very easily and subtly tip itself into oblivion while you're thinking about something else….
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Yes - AND you think very carefully about where the center of gravity will be as you're working on it! If you take off a wheel, or an exhaust, or a front fork, the scooter can very easily and subtly tip itself into oblivion while you're thinking about something else….
Great point, as it could be easily overlooked.
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Useful info ... With my GTS I measured and 2/3 of the weight is on the rear wheel (when I'm not on it).

Also i don't try and balance it. If i want to access the front wheel i then lift at the front at leave it on the centre stand. For things like disconnect the rear suspension for valve check i lift at the rear of the floor where the swing arm attaches to the body
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Did you perchance check in the Wiki?

GTS Valve Lash Adjustment

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Did you perchance check in the Wiki?

GTS Valve Lash Adjustment


Yes I did, but since this Sears lifting device is not available here in my country (hasn't found it) I asked here what the other say about what I found
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I dunno about the modern Vespa's but I have 2 oldies and had the first lift you posted. Doesn't work so well honestly. Like someone above mentioned it doesn't lift very high first off and secondly 2 parts the scoot sits on when lifting don't work with the exhaust and the support rails on the underside of the floorboards so when you use it the balance is way off as it's gotta be shifted way forward of the center point of the bike.

I'd have to lift the scoot and then grab the rear end and lift that up and put a bucket under it to hold it. Not ideal. Got a flatbed motorcycle lift and haven't looked back. But those take up way more space and are ridiculously heavy.
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Abner_Bjorn wrote:
This is for a valve adjustment? You don't need any of the above. Place your center stand on some 2x scrap, and un-bolt the shocks at the top. From this point, you can rotate the engine by hand.
I like your style. I use an old Toyota scissors jack with a piece of 2x4 bolted to the top. Cost 0$.

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