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So it's been an interesting week. I've launched new MV merchandise through Amazon Merch, had all of that merch pulled down by Amazon over IP violations, put up some different merch for the NSM crowd, and then had that merch mercilessly pirated across the entirety of the internet.

It's been fun.

But today, I am rolling out a new general-purpose Modern Vespa design that doesn't infringe on anyone's IP, but that will almost certainly be counterfeited by the time you read this message. No, I'm not kidding, it will be that fast.

You can buy the genuine articles via these links:
Amazon.co.uk (UK)
Lots of sizes and colors are available. And when you make a purchase, you are helping support this site, which remains ad-free, popup-free, and community-driven.
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I also added on my fridge water filter EARLY, before that SOB starts chirping at me.

I'm going on break!
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Am I wrong but I thought the forum began in 2005. Inside joke??
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Am I wrong but I thought the forum began in 2005. Inside joke??
All dates are accurate to within 100 years.
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Some additional notes: the product description of this garment (if you scroll down the listing) will read as follows:
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Founded in the Baja Rockridge neighborhood of Oakland, California in 1905, the MV Scooter Forum has been proudly serving up a steady stream of information, community, and nonsense for 120 years. (All dates accurate to within 100 years)
If it doesn't include this description, it is likely counterfeit -- even if you find it on Amazon.

Also, the genuine article includes these bullet points, though these might be copied verbatim on counterfeits:
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If you're into obscure NSM memes, there are some more ridiculous items available:

MV Ham Bet T-Shirt
MV Ham Bet Long Sleeve Shirt
MV Ham Bet Sweatshirt
MV Ham Bet Pullover Hoodie
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No......nobody knows about the Nirvana song?
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No......nobody knows about the Nirvana song?
I know a few Nirvana songs. Hard not to, with the frequency they were played on the radio for a while in the 90s.

But not quite getting the reference, no.
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Strongly advise against googling lyrics or playing it out loud around others, but....they did a song called MV which was clearly recorded during a particularly strong dose of H for kurt.
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Amazon US seems at least somewhat flexible on the use of the 'Vespa' name, as evidenced by their allowing this sticker, which I believe I saw on Ironfoot/Doublegood's website...

https://www.amazon.com/Piaggio-Italia-Bumper-Sticker-KRIS-RETRO-STICKERS-545/dp/B09GX9K8DR/ref=sr_1_12_sspa?
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Amazon US seems at least somewhat flexible on the use of the 'Vespa' name, as evidenced by their allowing this sticker, which I believe I saw on Ironfoot/Doublegood's website...

https://www.amazon.com/Piaggio-Italia-Bumper-Sticker-KRIS-RETRO-STICKERS-545/dp/B09GX9K8DR/ref=sr_1_12_sspa?
Yep. The rules are very unevenly enforced. Also, that listing isn't an "Amazon Merch" listing, nor is it being fulfilled by Amazon. It's an independent seller.

Also, it's Ironfoot's design, being pirated. Which Amazon will refuse to do anything about.

Amazon Merch listings, in particular, are held to a higher standard, since Amazon is both the maker and the seller -- which means that they have some culpability for selling merchandise that infringes someone else'e (e.g. Piaggio's) IP.

But even then, there are definitely Amazon Merch listings that include the word "Vespa", and when I pointed this out in my ongoing discussion with the nameless fuckwits at Amazon, I got... silence.

And then to make matters worse, when someone pirates your Merch design and lists the same design with the same title and same description on Amazon Merch, Amazon will do sweet fuck all.

So, yeah.

It's not a case of "somewhat flexible use". It's a case of the playing field not being level or even obeying the laws of physics.
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Yeah, the world we live in these days…

My shirt with original design was delivered yesterday although I am not there. I will inspect it tomorrow.

Edit: My wife checked and I did receive the original version.
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Long-sleeve shirts have been added to the collection.

MV Scooter Forum Long Sleeve Shirt
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Do they do license plate surrounds?

"My other car is a Vespa", or "I'd rather be riding my Vespa" would be cool
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My yellow "scooter forum" T was delivered just now, before the NSM T I bought earlier.
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My yellow "scooter forum" T was delivered just now, before the NSM T I bought earlier.
Oh, weird!
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Do they do license plate surrounds?

"My other car is a Vespa", or "I'd rather be riding my Vespa" would be cool
Nope. They don't do license plate frames.

And in any case, "Vespa" is a disallowed word within Amazon Merch. I've already had multiple listings pulled for that specific IP violation, even though it was only the word "vespa" within our domain name.

Yes, you can find other listings with "Vespa" in the graphics. But Amazon Merch has made it clear that it is not allowed, and my account is likely now receiving heightened scrutiny.
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Nope. They don't do license plate frames.

And in any case, "Vespa" is a disallowed word within Amazon Merch.
What about Uespa in flourish font?

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I received my long-sleeved shirts (original logo) today... They're nice-looking too.
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I received my long-sleeved shirts (original logo) today... They're nice-looking too.
Excellent. Thanks much!
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Excellent. Thanks much!
Thank you!
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T-shirts are now available from Amazon.co.uk:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DY6J4PPL
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I received the OG shirt and hoodie this week.

I can say the tee mostly fits like a true medium (no vanity sizing), but perhaps a tad snug across the chest. Do NOT dry if you are worried about slight shrinking.

The medium hoodie was a little more generous of a fit overall. Perfect for the comfy feel you want from a hoodie.
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I received the OG shirt and hoodie this week.

I can say the tee mostly fits like a true medium (no vanity sizing), but perhaps a tad snug across the chest. Do NOT dry if you are worried about slight shrinking.

The medium hoodie was a little more generous of a fit overall. Perfect for the comfy feel you want from a hoodie.
That's helpful. Much thanks!
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Shebalba wrote:
I received the OG shirt and hoodie this week.

I can say the tee mostly fits like a true medium (no vanity sizing), but perhaps a tad snug across the chest. Do NOT dry if you are worried about slight shrinking.

The medium hoodie was a little more generous of a fit overall. Perfect for the comfy feel you want from a hoodie.
I would agree and plenty long enough, maybe longer than normal. Certainly no vanity sizing. One thing I noticed when I put it on was length. See photo for comparison to another medium t-shirt.

Shirt seems to be of lighter weight and thickness.
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I would agree and plenty long enough, maybe longer than normal. Certainly no vanity sizing. One thing I noticed when I put it on was length. See photo for comparison to another medicine t-shirt.

Shirt seems to be of lighter weight and thickness.
The original-edition logo t-shirts (the ones that were pulled) were actually the "premium" t-shirt type, which is only offered in the US. This was a bit of a mistake on my part, mostly due to the fact that I couldn't propagate the same product to other markets -- I had to create a new product instead, which was problematic for reasons that are largely unimportant and specific to the general fuckery of the Amazon Merch control panel. But problems nonetheless.

For the newer t-shirts (the one with the round red ring) I am using the "standard" t-shirt type, which doesn't appear as long (to me). So for anyone buying one of the newer ones, length probably won't be the same.

Cost is a couple bucks lower as well.
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The original-edition logo t-shirts (the ones that were pulled) were actually the "premium" t-shirt type, which is only offered in the US. This was a bit of a mistake on my part, mostly due to the fact that I couldn't propagate the same product to other markets -- I had to create a new product instead, which was problematic for reasons that are largely unimportant and specific to the general fuckery of the Amazon Merch control panel. But problems nonetheless.

For the newer t-shirts (the one with the round red ring) I am using the "standard" t-shirt type, which doesn't appear as long (to me). So for anyone buying one of the newer ones, length probably won't be the same.

Cost is a couple bucks lower as well.
Right, mine is of the original version. Interesting, seems like the days of "easy" are long gone. I see autocorrect got my "medium" corrected to "medicine". I corrected the original post.

Thanks much Jess.
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Okay, Amazon automatically propagated the new design to other formats. These just became available on Amazon.com (USA):

MV Scooter Forum Sweatshirt
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