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Hi all! Greentings from Chile 🇨🇱!
I am proudly a new owner of a 2007 Vespa GTS 250 and I cannot love it more.

The Vespa was 9/10 when I purchased it and we made all fluid changes when done.
A strange thing I noticed was that it did not have the cap for the bleeding valve, but I didn't think about it very much.

After a few months of using it I was able to find the plastic cap and put it back on.
However after a 100km-trip I went back home and noticed that the cap gas gone, and a little drop of coolant was in the tip of the bleeder[/img]

I asked a person that loves Vespas and told me to screw the valve 90° tighter. Once I did it the coolant started pouring quite a lot for a couple of minutes and then it stopped.
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However, whenever I ride the bike, coolant starts to leak, slowly but steady, so I had to buy new coolant (same brand) and refilling some 50-100 ml after I use it.

Therefore, I'm not sure if I should replace the valve's o-ring or the full piece.
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Attached you can see the images. I took a look at the valve and the o-ring looks quite small, but not damaged.

Your support is very much appreciated!!
Bleeder small drop
Bleeder small drop
Coolant leaking
Coolant leaking
Bleeding valve
Bleeding valve
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The oring may be bad but the plastic housing may have cracked which is very likely as people tend to over tighten the bleed screw
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I would first try replacing the o-ring with a new one from a hardware store.
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That's clearly leaking out of the center, I think you're safe on the housing. There's an old thread here where someone tapped the hole and fit a small brass screw to stop the leak. Hopefully a new O-ring fixes it. Mine leaked from the thermostat gasket.
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Thank you so much for your replies!
So I changed the o ring and the leaking is smaller, but persists.
Once I start the engine it starts pouring a bit more. As you guys mentioned, the leaking is from the middle hole, but it won't stop even if I screw strong.

Maybe I'll have to change the whole system, while refilling coolant in the meantime until the spare parts arrive?
New o-ring. Paper-dried valve
New o-ring. Paper-dried valve
After 1 minute. Engine off
After 1 minute. Engine off
5 minutes of engine running, no throttle
5 minutes of engine running, no throttle
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Yo can see a video example here
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On the screw below the O ring is a cone saddle, it should seal the joint, it is a fingerprint or this is not a reason for leakage of liquid.
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Seem not to leak from metal/plastic, like mine did, as they spoiled it in service tightening too much. But if end up change the whole, get the metallic option of theme.
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Thank you for your replies.
I think I might have to change the whole set since the leaking persists.

I'm taking this video and the parts it mentions as a reference (the housing is metallic fortunately!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=567&v=tpYHZzezNac&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scooterwest.com%2F&embeds_referring_origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scooterwest.com&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjIsMjg2NjIsMjg2NjY
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Just tap the hole M6 and screw in a short bolt.
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13-04-2025, 5:24 p. m.
Just tap the hole M6 and screw in a short bolt.
The hole tapping + screw sounds a bit compromising.
I guess the hole is there for a reason, right? Maybe it ends up damaging the whole system.

I am 90% confident to purchase the new metallic bleeder + thermostat etc.

Thank you everyone for the support!
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I think jimc was referring to a temporary repair to block off the leakage. The only time you need the bleed screw is when you change coolant every 2 years so unless you need to change fluid, you can buy the needed parts and do the jimc repair.
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That is useful repair, temporal or not, but, the thing is: that has to be done with great care, as othervise the leak is next on metal/plastic border.

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