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Stop strip.

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Right? That was my suggestion, but people kept talking about kids playing and stuff. I mean, I'd put up a sign. Something like "Hey, kids! Be careful! Don't get stabbed."

I mean, I want to be a good neighbor.
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Stop strip
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Right? That was my suggestion, but people kept talking about kids playing and stuff. I mean, I'd put up a sign. Something like "Hey, kids! Be careful! Don't get stabbed."

I mean, I want to be a good neighbor.
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Caltrops FTW!



Also, according to AI :
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No, installing stop strips (spike strips) on your private property in Michigan is highly discouraged and likely illegal due to the potential for causing injury and property damage, which could lead to significant civil liability and criminal consequences for the property owner. While no Michigan law explicitly prohibits them, general laws regarding negligence, hazardous conditions, and the intentional injury of others mean you could be held responsible if someone is injured or their property is damaged by them.
Reasons it's a Bad Idea
Civil Liability: You could be sued for medical bills, property damage, and other losses if someone is hurt or their vehicle is damaged by the spikes.
Criminal Charges: Intentionally causing harm or injury could lead to criminal charges.
Negligence: You have a duty to prevent harm to others on your property, and installing spike strips shows a disregard for that duty.
Unknown Intent: You cannot be certain that a trespasser is a dangerous criminal; they could be a child, a delivery person, or someone who has gotten lost.
Safer Alternatives for Property Owners
Instead of spike strips, consider these legal methods to deter trespassers:
Proper Signage: Post clear "No Trespassing" signs that are visible and spaced according to state law.
Purple Markings: Use the purple vertical line system as authorized by Michigan law (Senate Bill 106) to mark your property boundaries.
Contact Law Enforcement: Report trespassing to your local police or sheriff's department.
Physical Barriers: Install fences or other non-hazardous barriers around your property to prevent entry.
Stupid rules.
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I like how they call them "anti-bird" spikes, but all the images are of tires.
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Just a short 4" 'fence' should be enough to warn these so-called 'christian' folk from driving over your yard. Fuckers.
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A row of fair-sized rocks should work, and cost less.
Or, if you are so inclined, a call to the police and/or tow company may be quite effective. Church goers who are so inconsiderate need help.
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I like how they call them "anti-bird" spikes, but all the images are of tires.
not to mention you can make a lot more of those for a lot less money.

sturdy nails, nip the heads off at an angle, put a row in a vise, heat them with a propane torch, once they're glowing you tap them into a right angle with a hammer (hence having a line of them in the vise, so you aren't doing them one at a time).

put two of them together at the bend and add a lil tack weld.
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This. My front yard. The church next door will not secure their property to restrict people from driving over our lawn.

I'm contacting a fencing company today. I'm thinking something ugly with razor wire.
I would put in some sections of small plastic white picket style about 12-18 inches tall as a decorative along the property line , sort of a line definition zone. or line in the sand kinda thing.
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I would put in some sections of small plastic white picket style about 12-18 inches tall as a decorative along the property line , sort of a line definition zone. or line in the sand kinda thing.
Also, if it's low enough that it's obviously visible, but they are still able to drive over it, you can have them charged with property damage.
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I would put in some sections of small plastic white picket style about 12-18 inches tall as a decorative along the property line , sort of a line definition zone. or line in the sand kinda thing.
Or a low chain suspended on posts?

Mowing around a fence or larger obstacles could be a PITA.
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My parents lived on a small lake in New England, and after one dude drove past the house parked his truck and started fishing off of the dock, My father put up a fence of telephone poles cut to about six feet (he works for Mass Electric and had, umm access).
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This. My front yard. The church next door will not secure their property to restrict people from driving over our lawn.

I'm contacting a fencing company today. I'm thinking something ugly with razor wire.
This might be a waste of your time, but if you can get the license plate number off of that, and track the owner, you could have some fun. Go to the church and attend a mass when you see the same car there, and play the video for anyone who wants to make a new friend. Name names, display utter ignorance (I mean, in that sort of situation, someone else having MORE ignorance?). And, churches are DEEP with gossip cliques. They'll love you. These things I know from personal experience, though granted long ago.

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I grew up next to a church, the pastor gave 15min services so it was packed. People parked on both sides of a small road, they blocked our driveway, they parked in our driveway. One day dad and a neighbor friend pulled a fire alarm to show how bad it was. Cops didn't like it, but they got the point. And it didn't matter 'cause they kept coming.
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It's slow at work. I have one job to print (500 envelopes), but the envelope printer is not connected to the network, and the technician assigned to fix it hasn't responded since I placed the service request last Friday.

Because it's slow I figured I'd do some school work. I have to finalize my portfolio website for one class, and there's a course I'm taking on sofialearning.com that I need to complete.

I can do neither one.

I left my notebook that I use to make notes about the website on my desk at home. So I have no idea which template I had decided on, and I don't have access to the hex codes for the colors I want to use.

Once I realized that, I figured I'd work on the other course. Except I also left my password notebook on my desk at home.
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We're taking one last camping trip this coming weekend before we cover up the camper. That's making me very happy.

What made me NOT happy was Saturday we were looking for something to add to our camping arsenal ... a 10x10 screened in canopy.

Dick's Sporting Goods had LOTS of canopies ... but nothing screened.

But there'a a Cabela's right nearby, so we stopped in there. I kid you not, within five minutes they had TWO people trying to sell us something we didn't come in for. The first was at a table right at the flipping entrance that you had to pass while entering where an older gentleman asked if we were members. I said no, so he followed it up with "Would you like to be?" I said "No, we're here for something specific". He continued asking if we'd like to be members and I continued saying no. I finally told him my Dad is a member, to which he responded "Well, you could be, too!"

I wanted to poke the old dude right in the eye, but that would have been out of character. So, I just walked away while he was still talking.

The next guy was toward the back and asked if he could help us. Great, I thought. I told him what we were looking for. He pointed out the direction and then began with, "So, what kind of camping do you like to do?" Thinking he was just being friendly, I told him and it rapidly devolved into a sales pitch for a camping excursion. I finally had to walk away from him as well.

This all took place in under ten minutes. I didn't walk into the store thinking about buying a [thing we can't discuss here], but I was a-thinking of buying one by this point.

So, high pressure sales. That's what did it for me this weekend.
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So, high pressure sales. That's what did it for me this weekend.
Nothing worse than when they leap on you as soon as you set foot in the doorway.
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Nothing worse than when they leap on you as soon as you set foot in the doorway.
Then it's closer to the exit door.
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Apparently Sephora uses color coded baskets to indicate whether you'd like help or not.

Not that I've ever shopped at Sephora.

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Apparently Sephora uses color coded baskets to indicate whether you'd like help or not.

Not that I've ever shopped at Sephora.

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But do they carry screen tents?
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We're taking one last camping trip this coming weekend before we cover up the camper. That's making me very happy.

What made me NOT happy was Saturday we were looking for something to add to our camping arsenal ... a 10x10 screened in canopy.

Dick's Sporting Goods had LOTS of canopies ... but nothing screened.

But there'a a Cabela's right nearby, so we stopped in there. I kid you not, within five minutes they had TWO people trying to sell us something we didn't come in for. The first was at a table right at the flipping entrance that you had to pass while entering where an older gentleman asked if we were members. I said no, so he followed it up with "Would you like to be?" I said "No, we're here for something specific". He continued asking if we'd like to be members and I continued saying no. I finally told him my Dad is a member, to which he responded "Well, you could be, too!"

I wanted to poke the old dude right in the eye, but that would have been out of character. So, I just walked away while he was still talking.

The next guy was toward the back and asked if he could help us. Great, I thought. I told him what we were looking for. He pointed out the direction and then began with, "So, what kind of camping do you like to do?" Thinking he was just being friendly, I told him and it rapidly devolved into a sales pitch for a camping excursion. I finally had to walk away from him as well.

This all took place in under ten minutes. I didn't walk into the store thinking about buying a [thing we can't discuss here], but I was a-thinking of buying one by this point.

So, high pressure sales. That's what did it for me this weekend.
That's a byproduct of Bass Pro buying them out. It's a way to get you to sign up for a "giveaway" (they'll tailor what kind it is to whatever you answer during 20 questions) which nobody ever wins, but you'll certainly start getting untold amounts of spam calls, mail, and email once they pass your info around.

The employees hawking it get a bonus based off how many they get in a week so to say they're aggressive is an understatement. It's actually the reason I refuse to go into either store anymore unless it's ABSOLUTELY necessary. Then I just keep going and don't pay attention to them at all.
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Speaking of BassPro, we drove past one nearby that opened some years ago. The nice red roof has turned a nice shade of pink. Manly, indeed.
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Speaking of BassPro, we drove past one nearby that opened some years ago. The nice red roof has turned a nice shade of pink. Manly, indeed.
well when it's owned by someone focused only on profits, what do you expect? repairs? upkeep? lol silly poor, that's not how you clear an extra 20 million a year!!! how else will we keep people flocking to the big cedar lodge and its five golf courses?? nothing says 'outdoorsman' like golf.
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Fricking AI generated content. Looking you, Buzzfeed.

I was reading a list of songs commonly associated with movie scenes this morning. Yes, it was Buzzfeed ... I make no apologies.

It came to the parade scene from Ferris Bueller, featuring "Twist and Shout" attributed to -

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Fricking AI generated content. Looking you, Buzzfeed.

I was reading a list of songs commonly associated with movie scenes this morning. Yes, it was Buzzfeed ... I make no apologies.

It came to the parade scene from Ferris Bueller, featuring "Twist and Shout" attributed to -

Wayne Newton.

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Danke schoen for sharing this.
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My insurance company is pissing me off today... tried to sort the change from the old bike to the VXL & the model isn't on the system. Checked the V5C & the model isn't listed on there or on the MOT certificate (Just Piaggio Blue or Piaggio-Vespa) so I rang them back & said there had been some confusion over the model & that it was unknown. Now waiting for them to call me back.

Did a comparison search in the meantime & the model isn't listed there either.

Would I be safe in selecting the 'nearest' model, IE the LX or LXV instead of the VXL?
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My insurance company is pissing me off today... tried to sort the change from the old bike to the VXL & the model isn't on the system. Checked the V5C & the model isn't listed on there or on the MOT certificate (Just Piaggio Blue or Piaggio-Vespa) so I rang them back & said there had been some confusion over the model & that it was unknown. Now waiting for them to call me back.

Did a comparison search in the meantime & the model isn't listed there either.

Would I be safe in selecting the 'nearest' model, IE the LX or LXV instead of the VXL?
When I bought my Hyundai Santa Cruz four years ago, it was a new model (mine was the first one the dealership had sold). My insurance company didn't have it in their system, so they insured it as a Santa Fe. The local toll authority didn't have it in their system, either, so I had to list it as either a Santa Fe or a Tucson. It took about 6 months for their systems to catch up.

My recommendation would be to either (1) speak with an actual agent and make them do the work, or (2) enter the VIN and let the system figure it out.
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My recommendation would be to either (1) speak with an actual agent and make them do the work, or (2) enter the VIN and let the system figure it out.
I spoke to them on the phone & they only asked for the plate, not the VIN.

A VIN search on Car Owl states model is unknown. Waiting for insurers to call me back...
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Your VXL is a Vietnamese or Indian Piaggio model? Not Italian! Probably a grey import - I'm not surprised it's unrecognised by the UK system, that model will never have been homologated.

Just put LXV.
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Your VXL is a Vietnamese or Indian Piaggio model? Not Italian! Probably a grey import - I'm not surprised it's unrecognised by the UK system, that model will never have been homologated.
The scooter was first registered in the UK as new, so can't be an import... can it?

As the person I am buying it from & the person he bought it from managed to insure it, I think the issue is with Devitt, not the scooter itself. Maybe I'll just have to change insurers.

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In a frustrating echo of somebody ripping the dash off my GS 310 ([NSR] What's Pissing you off Today? III (Post 2698845)), I discovered this morning that somebody ripped the control module for the heated grips clean off the handlebars. Thankfully, the wiring is separate so I can start and ride the bike with no issue. Still though: a completely pointless act of vandalism. My guess now is that it's a local tweeker who just looks for things that are "electronic-y" to steal overnight, and my number was up. I can see that they also messed with some other wires, but nothing else seems harmed so far.
I'll have to ask if the security video caught them...and then think if I want to try insurance...
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In a frustrating echo of somebody ripping the dash off my GS 310 ([NSR] What's Pissing you off Today? III (Post 2698845)), I discovered this morning that somebody ripped the control module for the heated grips clean off the handlebars. Thankfully, the wiring is separate so I can start and ride the bike with no issue. Still though: a completely pointless act of vandalism. My guess now is that it's a local tweeker who just looks for things that are "electronic-y" to steal overnight, and my number was up. I can see that they also messed with some other wires, but nothing else seems harmed so far.
I'll have to ask if the security video caught them...and then think if I want to try insurance...
<le sigh>
Clear case that justifies capital punishment.

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Clear case that justifies capital punishment.
Alas, I doubt it would be that satisfying considering how far gone some of the people around here are. That said, I do seem a lot like Bruce Lee in my head when I think about how some scenarios could play out

In spite of the frustration and inconvenience, I'm happy that I don't have to change my equation in my sig yet.
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jimc wrote:
Your VXL is a Vietnamese or Indian Piaggio model? Not Italian! Probably a grey import - I'm not surprised it's unrecognised by the UK system, that model will never have been homologated.

Just put LXV.
Indian market model. Drum brakes? Carb? They can't be registered in NZ. Some clever entrepreneur brought a few in. Oops.
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2019 GTS 300 HPE w Malossi
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AJOnTheRoad wrote:
I spoke to them on the phone & they only asked for the plate, not the VIN.

A VIN search on Car Owl states model is unknown. Waiting for insurers to call me back...
type the vin into https://www.vespa.com/en_EN/recall-campaign/
also do it on the Italian version because the description returned is different https://www.vespa.com/it_IT/recall-campaign/
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GTS300 Super (Mustard) GTS250 Super (Bulger)
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Walgreens has placed everything priced above some set price under lock and key to prevent theft and return for cash. Stop allowing returns without a receipt? Must be too hard. Need a watch battery that costs less than $10? Push the service button and wait.
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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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AJOnTheRoad wrote:
The scooter was first registered in the UK as new, so can't be an import... can it?
Oh yes it can! Plenty of grey market bikes around.

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