OP
UTC

Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
 
Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
UTC quote
Just got my first Vespa based of the advice on here love it

I'll try and add photos later, but I have some rust on the exhaust. Is there anything I should put on this to protect it or just leave it.
I also have a tiny bit of bubbling on the belt case and on the seal behind the front mudguard.

Should I worry or not? Thanks everyone [/img]
Vespa
Vespa
OP
UTC

Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
 
Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
UTC quote
Exhaust, belt case and seal
Exhaust
Exhaust
Seal
Seal
Belt case
Belt case
@fledermaus avatar
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2015 GTS 2017 BV 350
Joined: UTC
Posts: 12590
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
@fledermaus avatar
2015 GTS 2017 BV 350
Joined: UTC
Posts: 12590
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
UTC quote
Congratulations! What year is it?

Not sure about the other stuff, but the exhaust needs to come off and get painted ASAP. Wire brush the rust, prime and coat with a high-temp paint and reinstall. With luck you. Can reuse the graphite bushing, but it's advisable to have a spare anyway as it's a wear item.

Bit of a messy job, but pretty easy overall.
UTC

Molto Verboso
Vespa GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1566
Location: Germany
 
Molto Verboso
Vespa GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1566
Location: Germany
UTC quote
fledermaus wrote:
Congratulations! What year is it?

Not sure about the other stuff, but the exhaust needs to come off and get painted ASAP. Wire brush the rust, prime and coat with a high-temp paint and reinstall. With luck you. Can reuse the graphite bushing, but it's advisable to have a spare anyway as it's a wear item.

Bit of a messy job, but pretty easy overall.
In Germany there is (or was) a paste to blacken the cooking plates of old electric stoves and stovepipes. The stuff was available from various brands and was known as "Ofenwichse", 'Ofenschwärze' or "Herdschwarz". The best-known brand was "Elektro Puzzi", unfortunately no longer on the market. But you can still buy these products online and in the one or other DIY store. The stuff can easily be applied to a mounted exhaust with an old cloth (use gloves), but the rust should be removed first. After application, it burns in accordingly. I have no idea if you can get something like this and what it is called in English.
@az_slynch avatar
UTC

Molto Verboso
'07 GTS250, '07 LX150, '81 P200E, '78 P200E, '74 VBC1, '64 V90 and 3 Ciaos
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1665
Location: Tucson, AZ
 
Molto Verboso
@az_slynch avatar
'07 GTS250, '07 LX150, '81 P200E, '78 P200E, '74 VBC1, '64 V90 and 3 Ciaos
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1665
Location: Tucson, AZ
UTC quote
This works decently for recoating an exhaust:

https://www.vhtpaint.com/product/vht-flameproof-coating-high-heat-coating/
@jimc avatar
UTC

Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 45220
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
 
Moderaptor
@jimc avatar
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 45220
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
UTC quote
GermanGTSDriver wrote:
In Germany there is (or was) a paste to blacken the cooking plates of old electric stoves and stovepipes. The stuff was available from various brands and was known as "Ofenwichse", 'Ofenschwärze' or "Herdschwarz". The best-known brand was "Elektro Puzzi", unfortunately no longer on the market. But you can still buy these products online and in the one or other DIY store. The stuff can easily be applied to a mounted exhaust with an old cloth (use gloves), but the rust should be removed first. After application, it burns in accordingly. I have no idea if you can get something like this and what it is called in English.
"Stove Blacking" is the English term - but haven't heard that in a long while! Still available in hardware stores both in the US and the UK.

However, it doesn't do much except make the exhaust look better - a decent "one coat" VHT paint is required, as used on BBQs etc. You need one that'll cope with 650°C (~1200°F) as the catalytic converter inside the exhaust gets Very Very Hot. I always used Rustoleum in the UK, where is pretty mandatory to re-coat the exhaust every year to keep it going as long as possible. Bloody salted roads.

No salt on the roads in California, and neither the 2005 LX or the 2010 GTS show any signs of rust at all!
@tinddu avatar
UTC

Hooked
2022 gts 300 touring
Joined: UTC
Posts: 152
Location: pennsylvania
 
Hooked
@tinddu avatar
2022 gts 300 touring
Joined: UTC
Posts: 152
Location: pennsylvania
UTC quote
Congratulations for your Vespa ,enjoy and ride! Clap emoticon
OP
UTC

Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
 
Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
UTC quote
fledermaus wrote:
Congratulations! What year is it?

Not sure about the other stuff, but the exhaust needs to come off and get painted ASAP. Wire brush the rust, prime and coat with a high-temp paint and reinstall. With luck you. Can reuse the graphite bushing, but it's advisable to have a spare anyway as it's a wear item.

Bit of a messy job, but pretty easy overall.
Thanks, I'll get on that, it's 2017
OP
UTC

Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
 
Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
UTC quote
GermanGTSDriver wrote:
In Germany there is (or was) a paste to blacken the cooking plates of old electric stoves and stovepipes. The stuff was available from various brands and was known as "Ofenwichse", 'Ofenschwärze' or "Herdschwarz". The best-known brand was "Elektro Puzzi", unfortunately no longer on the market. But you can still buy these products online and in the one or other DIY store. The stuff can easily be applied to a mounted exhaust with an old cloth (use gloves), but the rust should be removed first. After application, it burns in accordingly. I have no idea if you can get something like this and what it is called in English.
Thanks, I'll have a look
OP
UTC

Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
 
Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
UTC quote
jimc wrote:
"Stove Blacking" is the English term - but haven't heard that in a long while! Still available in hardware stores both in the US and the UK.

However, it doesn't do much except make the exhaust look better - a decent "one coat" VHT paint is required, as used on BBQs etc. You need one that'll cope with 650°C (~1200°F) as the catalytic converter inside the exhaust gets Very Very Hot. I always used Rustoleum in the UK, where is pretty mandatory to re-coat the exhaust every year to keep it going as long as possible. Bloody salted roads.

No salt on the roads in California, and neither the 2005 LX or the 2010 GTS show any signs of rust at all!
Thank you, I'll get some now
@fleece avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
1991 Vespa T5 Pole Position, 2008 Vespa S 125, 2023 Piaggio MP3 300HPE Sport
Joined: UTC
Posts: 4508
Location: Staffordshire England
 
Ossessionato
@fleece avatar
1991 Vespa T5 Pole Position, 2008 Vespa S 125, 2023 Piaggio MP3 300HPE Sport
Joined: UTC
Posts: 4508
Location: Staffordshire England
UTC quote
slangatco wrote:
Just got my first Vespa based of the advice on here love it
Hi, congrats & welcome
UTC

Molto Verboso
Vespa GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1566
Location: Germany
 
Molto Verboso
Vespa GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1566
Location: Germany
UTC quote
Because no one here has said anything about the other spots yet:

I would definitely take a closer look at the spot on the bead behind the front wheel. That's where I see the greatest need for action. To be on the safe side, also look in the battery compartment under the battery and the plastic tray.
@bluecloud avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
2018 GTS Super
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2371
Location: Googleville
 
Ossessionato
@bluecloud avatar
2018 GTS Super
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2371
Location: Googleville
UTC quote
My 2 cents.

Exhaust: have tried many high temp paints over the years and the VHT paint is probably best on the market. Stock exhausts tend to go pretty cheap on ebay, maybe watch for a deal.

Case cover: you have corrosion under the powdercoat, Could sand and repaint, might be easier to have it blasted and re powdercoated or ebay for a used one.

Body: looks like just bubbles for now, could probably ignore it for a while, to do it right will be a major job.
OP
UTC

Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
 
Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
UTC quote
GermanGTSDriver wrote:
Because no one here has said anything about the other spots yet:

I would definitely take a closer look at the spot on the bead behind the front wheel. That's where I see the greatest need for action. To be on the safe side, also look in the battery compartment under the battery and the plastic tray.
Hello, is there anything I can do from the outside to prolong the life of that bit? Thanks
OP
UTC

Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
 
Member
Joined: UTC
Posts: 15
UTC quote
bluecloud wrote:
My 2 cents.

Exhaust: have tried many high temp paints over the years and the VHT paint is probably best on the market. Stock exhausts tend to go pretty cheap on ebay, maybe watch for a deal.

Case cover: you have corrosion under the powdercoat, Could sand and repaint, might be easier to have it blasted and re powdercoated or ebay for a used one.

Body: looks like just bubbles for now, could probably ignore it for a while, to do it right will be a major job.
Thank you
UTC

Molto Verboso
Vespa GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1566
Location: Germany
 
Molto Verboso
Vespa GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1566
Location: Germany
UTC quote
slangatco wrote:
Hello, is there anything I can do from the outside to prolong the life of that bit? Thanks
What does it look like inside (battery compartment under the plastic insert)? Have you had a look?

You can clearly see rust under the paint in the photo. As always: remove rust, prime, paint. How time-consuming this is depends on how large the area is and how perfect you want the paintwork to be. The bead with the body seam is not easy.

I'm not an expert on paint work, so I hope you'll get a tip or two here.
Or ask one or two painters about the costs, you'll get an impression and maybe a tip if you want to do it yourself.
@coddy avatar
UTC

Addicted
2021 GTS 300 Supersport, Triumph Tiger 800
Joined: UTC
Posts: 965
Location: Oxfordshire, UK
 
Addicted
@coddy avatar
2021 GTS 300 Supersport, Triumph Tiger 800
Joined: UTC
Posts: 965
Location: Oxfordshire, UK
UTC quote
jimc wrote:
"Stove Blacking" is the English term - but haven't heard that in a long while! Still available in hardware stores both in the US and the UK.

However, it doesn't do much except make the exhaust look better - a decent "one coat" VHT paint is required, as used on BBQs etc. You need one that'll cope with 650°C (~1200°F) as the catalytic converter inside the exhaust gets Very Very Hot. I always used Rustoleum in the UK, where is pretty mandatory to re-coat the exhaust every year to keep it going as long as possible. Bloody salted roads.

No salt on the roads in California, and neither the 2005 LX or the 2010 GTS show any signs of rust at all!
I work for a Plumbing and Heating Merchant and we sell the below Coal Paint Spray

https://www.regin.co.uk/Catalogue/Stove-Products/Stove-Paint/Back-to-Black-Coal-Paint-200ml-Z65

I'm not recommending the OP uses it but it's an option.
@jimc avatar
UTC

Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 45220
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
 
Moderaptor
@jimc avatar
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 45220
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
UTC quote
^^^^ That looks to be a best solution I've yet seen!
@tbrduc avatar
UTC

Hooked
GTS250ie. Malaguti Yesterday, Motron Medalist, others
Joined: UTC
Posts: 142
Location: Vienna, VA
 
Hooked
@tbrduc avatar
GTS250ie. Malaguti Yesterday, Motron Medalist, others
Joined: UTC
Posts: 142
Location: Vienna, VA
UTC quote
slangatco wrote:
Just got my first Vespa based of the advice on here love it

I'll try and add photos later, but I have some rust on the exhaust. Is there anything I should put on this to protect it or just leave it.
I also have a tiny bit of bubbling on the belt case and on the seal behind the front mudguard.

Should I worry or not? Thanks everyone [/img]
Congratulations. Get excited!!
This group really strives to help and share knowledge!
I've learned alot and try to return what I've learned as well!

Modern Vespa is the premier site for modern Vespa and Piaggio scooters. Vespa GTS300, GTS250, GTV, GT200, LX150, LXS, ET4, ET2, MP3, Fuoco, Elettrica and more.

Modern Vespa is made possible by our generous supporters.

Buy Me A Coffee
 

Shop on Amazon with Modern Vespa

Modern Vespa is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com


All Content Copyright 2005-2025 by Modern Vespa.
All Rights Reserved.


[ Time: 0.0114s ][ Queries: 4 (0.0043s) ][ live ][ 335 ][ ThingOne ]