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You're going to say that I'm crazy. (And you'd be 100% correct--🎼... Pink Floyd: the lunatic is in my head... 🎶

I have a 6x9 flag that I want to mount. The fender clip type, like at SIP, won't work. The dual-on-a-bar type for the license plate reduce visibility of the brake light and signals. Rack mounts are inherently for 1/2" tubing. There are a couple of suction cup units in the US that could stick to the topcase, but they are usually 20-40" tall and might not hold on at high speeds. Options are running out.

Those 1/2" rack type are usually a 2-piece clamshell with bolts up through the bottom half and into milled thread holes in the top half. What if I used this through the topcase? I'd be able to silicone the bolts to keep water out, I think. Having metal and spread screws ought to reduce the stress on the topcase top.
https://a.co/d/06s1ClDe (on Amazon US but likely elsewhere too)

Crazy? Any thoughts pro or con?
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6x9 what? If it's yards or meters, you're likely not going to find a solution that clips on.
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That's a big flag if 6X9 feet. It will add significant drag, and what about crosswinds. (Not trying to be negative here.)
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Well, color me duh. I should have mentioned: inches. The mount is just 13" in total to allow the flag not to drag much when not in the wind.
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GT_ZAPMD39 wrote:
Well, color me duh. I should have mentioned: inches. The mount is just 13" in total to allow the flag not to drag much when not in the wind.
Oh good! Now I can start breathing again ROFL emoticon
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I wouldn't be comfortable with that spear waiting to pin me like a bug on the pavement. I'd find something flexible like a rubber tube. Maybe use that base, saw off the shaft and stick a flexible one on.
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And what flag? My guess on Vespa is: Italy !
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FYI, there's no such thing as HPE2…
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I always carve away just enough of the back of a topbox and the lid to mount one of the ubiquitous car window flags. Here's my GT200 back in 2010 on my first trip with the VCdM:
Arriving in Pontedera
Arriving in Pontedera
On the way home to London
On the way home to London
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Tor2ga wrote:
I wouldn't be comfortable with that spear waiting to pin me like a bug on the pavement. I'd find something flexible like a rubber tube. Maybe use that base, saw off the shaft and stick a flexible one on.
Very good point, Today's (no pun intended.) This is an example of why I wanted to solicit MV opinions. Thank you!
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SaFiS wrote:
FYI, there's no such thing as HPE2…
Of course you are totally correct, SaFiS. I only have done it for clarity based upon Scooterwest inventing the designation. I'll be a good citizen and stay away from it.
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Oskuk wrote:
And what flag? My guess on Vespa is: Italy !
Oskuk, I wouldn't mind that, but not what I have to "install". (My #1 heritage is Hungary but I also have family from Italy. It's cool how both are red, white, and green--just rotated.) The one I have is for Cape Ann, the region in MA where I live. (Website from an org that oversees many things: https://lovecapeann.com/experience-cape-ann/ We have the special license plate on our car; they don't do it for motorcycles, so the flag was next best.)
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jimc wrote:
I always carve away just enough of the back of a topbox and the lid to mount one of the ubiquitous car window flags. Here's my GT200 back in 2010 on my first trip with the VCdM:
Thanks, jimc. That may be the ticket. I also have another flag I could use. So instead of one on the back, I could do one on each side toward the rear corners of the topcase. I assume it still stays water-free due to the overlapping lip of the top half of the case.
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Thanks, jimc. That may be the ticket. I also have another flag I could use. So instead of one on the back, I could do one on each side toward the rear corners of the topcase. I assume it still stays water-free due to the overlapping lip of the top half of the case.
Just so - go for it.
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One last shot with more searching. If this is no good, it's onto the car window mount/flag (thanks again, jimc.)

A 100% flexible pole that can be sequestered from this mag mount deal:
https://a.co/d/08Mf3Rmc
and then a metal mount stub that would go through the topcase:
https://a.co/d/08Mf3Rmc

This would not be a specimen pin in a dump, it quickly removeable (flag and pole, not the mount itself, and wouldn't interfere at all when taking things in or out of the topcase. So I favor it over the car window mounts, all else being equal.

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