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i am planning on buying an LX50, whose top speed is 38 mph. according to new york state law, any vehicle that has a top speed of higher than 30 mph is considered a motorcycle. i was wondering two things:
1) if the top speed were to comply to this 30 mph rule, does that mean i don't need insurance on the vespa? and that i don't need a motorcycle license?
2) does anyone know how to do such a modification on an LX50?
thanks for your help.
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Re: modifying top speed to comply with NYS law
paul10003 wrote:
i am planning on buying an LX50, whose top speed is 38 mph. according to new york state law, any vehicle that has a top speed of higher than 30 mph is considered a motorcycle. i was wondering two things:
1) if the top speed were to comply to this 30 mph rule, does that mean i don't need insurance on the vespa? and that i don't need a motorcycle license?
2) does anyone know how to do such a modification on an LX50?
thanks for your help.
Do they physically test the speed? If so, all you need to do is put a restricting washer in the variator, the exact same method the manufacturer uses where it's required. This simply stops the scooter acheiving its potential top speed without affecting anything else.
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Paul, unfortunately just restricting the LX won't do it. The DMV maintains a list.
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"The DMV certifies a moped as a Class A, Class B or Class C limited use motorcycle according to top speed. The manufacturer requests the certification through the DMV Technical Services Bureau. Only a DMV-certified model of limited-use motorcycle can get a registration in NYS. The phone number for the Technical Services Bureau is (518) 474-5282."
http://www.nyscooterclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5484

So, with your scoot you need a motorcycle license whether you like it or not.

There is more info on this issue and other New York-specific scooter questions on our Forum, so come on by!
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You should get your MC license anyway, regardless of how fast it is.
Two motorized wheels on the streets doing 30 is no less dangerous than doing 60. Take the msf and pass it and all you have to do at the motor vehicl office is take the written test. Trust me, you'll be much better off from what you'll learn in the msf regardless of whether you take the class on a scooter or a motorcycle.
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d2mini wrote:
You should get your MC license anyway, regardless of how fast it is.
Two motorized wheels on the streets doing 30 is no less dangerous than doing 60. Take the msf and pass it and all you have to do at the motor vehicl office is take the written test. Trust me, you'll be much better off from what you'll learn in the msf regardless of whether you take the class on a scooter or a motorcycle.
+1 - and you need insurance no matter what as well.
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Not to sound too outraged, but WHERE IN THE WORLD DID YOU GET THE IDEA THAT YOU COULD GET BY WITHOUT INSURANCE????????? Can't you imagine the amount of damage and injury you could create, running your 225# scoot into someone else? Don't you recognize your personal responsibility to make sure that anyone you hurt is adequately compensated?

The purpose of insurance is not to make it more expensive for you to ride, but to make sure that when you do ride, if you negligently hurt someone else or damage their property, they will be compensated. Unless you have so much money that you're allowed to be self-insured (most states put that at a minimum of $1 mil net worth), your wallet isn't big enough.

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+1

I have wanted to say that, but have been holding back! Makes me made when people want to get out of insurance and having a cycle license.

Ill stop now....
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Cary Alburn wrote:
Not to sound too outraged, but WHERE IN THE WORLD DID YOU GET THE IDEA THAT YOU COULD GET BY WITHOUT INSURANCE????????? Can't you imagine the amount of damage and injury you could create, running your 225# scoot into someone else? Don't you recognize your personal responsibility to make sure that anyone you hurt is adequately compensated?

The purpose of insurance is not to make it more expensive for you to ride, but to make sure that when you do ride, if you negligently hurt someone else or damage their property, they will be compensated. Unless you have so much money that you're allowed to be self-insured (most states put that at a minimum of $1 mil net worth), your wallet isn't big enough.

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Imagine how much damage? On a 50cc scoot slightly more than a bicycle Laughing emoticon
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maydaverave wrote:
Imagine how much damage? On a 50cc scoot slightly more than a bicycle Laughing emoticon
Where on earth can you find a 225 lb bicycle going 39mph?!
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Any bicycle with me on it going downhill will meet the requirement!
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Agreed. +1.

You'll be a much more confident driver and the more you know the more rewarding/fun scooting becomes.

Best of luck.
d2mini wrote:
You should get your MC license anyway, regardless of how fast it is.
Two motorized wheels on the streets doing 30 is no less dangerous than doing 60. Take the msf and pass it and all you have to do at the motor vehicl office is take the written test. Trust me, you'll be much better off from what you'll learn in the msf regardless of whether you take the class on a scooter or a motorcycle.
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mstevens wrote:
maydaverave wrote:
Imagine how much damage? On a 50cc scoot slightly more than a bicycle Laughing emoticon
Where on earth can you find a 225 lb bicycle going 39mph?!
what about a fat bloke on a bicycle going down a hill?

seriously though, scooters weight ALOT.

try lifting one over a fence like in a cross country bike race..

and get a full liscence, alot of riders on L plates are always leaving their indicators on and doing stupid things.
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