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New cheaper versions of the LXV & GTV are coming.
They are painted in a dark metallic blue (Blue Midnight).
This time the seat is a two tone "tan" colour and not made of leather. This probably explains the cheaper price.

No rear rack either nor chrome wheels.

VESPA LXV NAVY and VESPA GTV NAVY

The Vespa Vintage family, a celebration of Vespa's unique style, has now been increased by two new Navy versions. Every day mobility has gained in sheer elegance without losing any of its practicality.

First introduced in 2006 to celebrate Vespa's sixtieth anniversary, and already legends in the scooter world, the Vespa LXV and GTV re-interpret the unique designs of the 1950s and 60s in style and functionality.
Inimitable looks and impressive sales have established the LXV and the GTV as models that have helped write the history of Vespa.
Now the LXV and GTV families are proud to announce the arrival of two Navy models, making unique style and elegance even more accessible and practical.
These latest additions to the great Vespa family are characterised by a stunning metallic finish in Midnight Blue and a new seat offering a choice of two sand colour upholstery finishes.


Vespa LXV Navy

The Vespa LXV Navy is a tribute to the Vespa generation of the '60s.
The headlight remains in its original position on the handlebars, as on the classic Vespas from which the LXV family draws its inspiration. The modern headlight, however, is more streamlined and minimalist, revealing open handlebars and giving the front of the scooter a lighter look altogether.
The instruments include an analog speedometer with a chrome surround, with completely new graphics, again inspired by those of the '60s.
The open handlebars are in chrome plated tubular steel. As on the models of yesteryear, the seat is in two separate parts, one for the rider and one for the passenger. The Vespa LXV Navy incorporates the technology of the Vespa LX models. The front wheel is 11" in diameter, with a disc front brake. And there is a choice of two ultra-modern and ecological engines, in two classic Vespa sizes: 125 cc (4 stroke, Euro 3) and 50 cc (2 stroke).


Vespa GTV Navy

The Vespa's legendary strength derives from its monocoque steel frame, a characteristic that has always distinguished Vespas from all other scooters. Design work on the GTV involved all those parts that have seen major changes over the years, adapting to developments in technology and stylistic preferences along the way.
The mudguard mounted headlight is a clear reference to the earliest years of the Vespa.
The handlebars have seen a similar restyling operation, and now feature a simple, open metal tube just as on the first Vespa. The speedometer/odometer is a round, analog instrument, with discretely retro graphics, complemented by a modern digital display.
Two rear shock absorbers, disc brakes front and rear, and large 12" wheels make the GTV Navy safe and comfortable for everyday commuting.
The Vespa GTV Navy comes in a choice of two engine sizes: 125 and 250 cc. Both these ultra-modern 4 stroke engines feature four valve heads and liquid cooling. Both also offer superb performance for their size while conforming to Euro 3 emission control standards.
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the black/blue gtv looks cool.

so what are they gonna take off the full priced gtv to make it cheaper??

the only difference i can see is the lack of the rear rack.
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the only difference i can see is the lack of the rear rack.
I think the big difference is the seat.

This time it's not made in leather but the "normal" fabric.

Here in Belgium the price difference is 300EUR (+-£225). That's the price of the leather seat.
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i want a black split seat!! Crying or Very sad emoticon
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Hmmm. Not a big fan of that seat color with the scoot for some reason. It works well on the GTS, but for some reason looks awkward here.

And no rear rack? How else will people be able to do this?

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They also replaced the chrome wheels with stock.
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The color looks more like plum than navy or black.
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No chrome wheels or leather seat? Those features made the jump from a GTS justifiable.
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i think they should produce a dragon red and a vintage green one for those vgreen lovers.
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and whats with putting light seats on dark coloured vespas? they just get dirty Crying or Very sad emoticon


i do love the fact that its not as *bling* as the standard gtv.


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The color looks more like plum than navy or black.
That was what I thought too!
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I wonder if anyone has ever taken the fender/light and put it on a GTS.
People would definitely see you coming.
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Here is a perfect translation of the info from Italian to English courtesy Babelfish... Laughing emoticon

SPA LXV NAVY and VESPA GTV NAVY The family Vespa Vintage, been born in order to celebrate the only style of Vespa, becomes rich of the new Navy versions. Mobility of every day becomes pure elaganza without to renounce to the praticità of use. Been born in 2006, in order to celebrate the sixtieth birthday of Vespa, absolute myth of the world two wheels, Vespa LXV and Vespa GTV recover and reinterpretano the more characteristic elements of years ` 50 and ` 60 in their shape and their function. The ineguagliabile style and the happened one trade obtained them have placed versions LXV and GTV between the models that have made the history of Vespa. Hour families LXV and GTV become larger themselves with the Navy versions, in order to render every day more accessible and fruibile inimitabili elegance and style. The last NATO of the Vespa family are personalized in a diamond metalized color Blue Midnight, in coupling to one new saddleback realized with two various types of covering in color sand. Who wants to distinguish itself but at the same time she does not want to renounce to I use daily paper and informal of means much elegant one, will find the positioning of the price interesting: Vespa LVV Navy is already available to 2.600 euro (version 50 cc) and 3,400 euro (125 cc). Vespa GTV Navy is in sale to 4.400 euro (125 cc) and 5,100 (250 cc). Prices F.C. enclosed Vat.

Vespa LXV Navy Vespa LXV Navy is pays to the Vespa generation of years ` 60. The optical group remains in the position originates them, loyal to the handle-bar, as on the scooter of the years to which the style of family LXV it is inspired, but in one version more snella and minibadly, in order to evidence the R-a.vista handle-bar and to lighten all the front part of the vehicle. The instrumentation is composed from a enclosed analogic element in a chromium plated frame, while the diagram, totally unknown, resumes those in voga in years ` 60. The handle-bar in sight is constituted from a chromium plated tube. The saddleback, like on the first models, maintains to the separation between the classified portion for the guide and that one for the passenger. Vespa LXV Navy adopts the technical equipment of the series LX, Vespa of years 2000. The front wheel from 11", the front Disc brake and two most modern and ecological motorizations in two piston displacements that have made the history of Vespa: 125cc (4 times, Euro 3) and 50 cc (2 times).

Vespa GTV Navy The carrying auto body, realized in steel, is the continuity element on which the force of Vespa is based, its fundamental characteristic that, from always, renders it various from every other scooter. The participations for the realization of family GTV have regarded all those particular that in the course of the time they have endured the greater modifications, in order to adapt themselves to the evolution of the technologies and the stilistiche tendencies of the several ages. The repositioning of the fanale on the mudguard wants to be an explicit callback to the origins. The same operation has been completed on the handle-bar that, on the first Vespa, is characterized for the semplicità of the R-a.vista metallic tube. The tachimetro/contachilometri analogic instrument circular, with one graphical discreetly retrò, integrated is made up of one from a modern one display digita them. The double posterior shock-absorber, the two Disc brakes, the great wheels from 12"confer emergency and comfort in the city use. Vespa GTV Navy arrives on the market in two piston displacements: 125 and 250 cc. Both the propulsori are most modern units 4 times, with distribution to four valves and cool to you to water to top of performances in the respective piston displacements and with the norm antiemissions Euro 3.
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I like it!
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It's kinda cute!!

And I like the switch to a fabric seat... Leather ones sure are beautiful, but not too practical if you frequently ride in the rain.

I hope this means that the "retro look" is heading toward "standard model" status.
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UGh! And double UGH!
Don't like either one.. This GTV's small useless windshield is funny looking IMO, and the headlight being where it is makes it look awkward and unbalanced to me! (That fender light belongs on much ligher older Vespa models, not on a fat GT styled machine!) And I definitely do not like split seats that you can't slide back on...
And IMO this LXV is too small for a split seat, it makes it look chunked into too many parts for my eye to enjoy. -And that laughable windshield on top of the headlight? -Looks like a French maid's headdress! Laughing emoticon

IMO the Italians are usually good at styling, but when they make changes only to make another year's model a bit cosmetically different they often get way off kilter!! (IMO...) Razz emoticon
I much prefer the looks of my 'plain' GT200. IMO it's a classically simple Italian design machine, with great clean lines that are not destroyed by superficial add-on gimmicks!! 8)
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i want a black split seat!! Crying or Very sad emoticon
Like this one

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/nontoxic6/IMG_0213.jpg

You can have one too. Motorsports scooters is offering one for about $800!
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diamond metalized Blue Midnight ?

neat
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suit scoot wrote:
i want a black split seat!! Crying or Very sad emoticon
Like this one

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/nontoxic6/IMG_0213.jpg

You can have one too. Motorsports scooters is offering one for about $800!
you can buy a car for that!
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suit scoot wrote:
Munibonds wrote:
suit scoot wrote:
i want a black split seat!! Crying or Very sad emoticon
Like this one

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/nontoxic6/IMG_0213.jpg

You can have one too. Motorsports scooters is offering one for about $800!
you can buy a car for that!
Still wouldn't be anywhere as fun as a Vespa to drive.
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Should have stuck with the design of the GT. The GT is elegant.

All the changes to the design for the GTS and GTV are kitsch!

Only like the engine of the GTS.

And I think the sdtandard LX150 is one of the most beautiful Vespas ever.

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[quote[]All the changes to the design for the GTS and GTV are kitsch! ]

ptttht... I beg to differ.


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All the changes to the design for the GTS and GTV are kitsch!
ptttht... I beg to differ.
+1


Thankfully Vespa / Piaggio makes a few different flavors for a few different tastes.
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All the changes to the design for the GTS and GTV are kitsch!
ptttht... I beg to differ.
+1


Thankfully Vespa / Piaggio makes a few different flavors for a few different tastes.
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[quote[]All the changes to the design for the GTS and GTV are kitsch! ]

ptttht... I beg to differ.

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Well, with a GT60, I sorta guess you would... Laughing emoticon
But wothehell bro, as long as you like it and bought it, thas all that really matters, no? 8)
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PersoNALLY like them ALL! I think they all have a niche to fill. I have a question -Does the headlight being low make a difference in the way it works? Can you see as well -or not- or better? I agree that the small wind screen probably would not be big enough to keep the wind off of my chest- but there are shorter people.
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I thought it would be poor, but I was wrong. It's actually good... Where I notice a low headlight is at stoplights. Instead of shining through the car's rear window it shows above their bumper. Don't think that's much of a problem, though; it's not like people back up much at lights.

If your headlight is out of adjustment or you have the rear shocks set wrong, a low light is probably less forgiving. Those are easy fixes , though.

I was delighted at being able to own a modern fenderlight. Seeing these other variations of my scoot makes me feel pleased that I'll be able to get parts in the future when I need them.

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PersoNALLY like them ALL! I think they all have a niche to fill. I have a question -Does the headlight being low make a difference in the way it works? Can you see as well -or not- or better? I agree that the small wind screen probably would not be big enough to keep the wind off of my chest- but there are shorter people.
I'm shorter (5'6") and the "windscreen" puts the wind right smack dab on my helmet / shoulders. No biggies, though.

As for the headlamp placement, I haven't noticed a marked difference in road visibility between my GTV and my previous GT....the lower lamp is about on the same level as the headlights on a small car. I try to keep a little bit back in traffic at stoplights, but so far I haven't had any problem with other drivers noticing me (knock on wood).
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Here's the official explanation :

VESPA LXV NAVY and VESPA GTV NAVY

The Vespa Vintage family, a celebration of Vespa's unique style, has now been increased by two new Navy versions. Every day mobility has gained in sheer elegance without losing any of its practicality.

First introduced in 2006 to celebrate Vespa's sixtieth anniversary, and already legends in the scooter world, the Vespa LXV and GTV re-interpret the unique designs of the 1950s and 60s in style and functionality.
Inimitable looks and impressive sales have established the LXV and the GTV as models that have helped write the history of Vespa.
Now the LXV and GTV families are proud to announce the arrival of two Navy models, making unique style and elegance even more accessible and practical.
These latest additions to the great Vespa family are characterised by a stunning metallic finish in Midnight Blue and a new seat offering a choice of two sand colour upholstery finishes.


Vespa LXV Navy

The Vespa LXV Navy is a tribute to the Vespa generation of the '60s.
The headlight remains in its original position on the handlebars, as on the classic Vespas from which the LXV family draws its inspiration. The modern headlight, however, is more streamlined and minimalist, revealing open handlebars and giving the front of the scooter a lighter look altogether.
The instruments include an analog speedometer with a chrome surround, with completely new graphics, again inspired by those of the '60s.
The open handlebars are in chrome plated tubular steel. As on the models of yesteryear, the seat is in two separate parts, one for the rider and one for the passenger. The Vespa LXV Navy incorporates the technology of the Vespa LX models. The front wheel is 11" in diameter, with a disc front brake. And there is a choice of two ultra-modern and ecological engines, in two classic Vespa sizes: 125 cc (4 stroke, Euro 3) and 50 cc (2 stroke).


Vespa GTV Navy

The Vespa's legendary strength derives from its monocoque steel frame, a characteristic that has always distinguished Vespas from all other scooters. Design work on the GTV involved all those parts that have seen major changes over the years, adapting to developments in technology and stylistic preferences along the way.
The mudguard mounted headlight is a clear reference to the earliest years of the Vespa.
The handlebars have seen a similar restyling operation, and now feature a simple, open metal tube just as on the first Vespa. The speedometer/odometer is a round, analog instrument, with discretely retro graphics, complemented by a modern digital display.
Two rear shock absorbers, disc brakes front and rear, and large 12" wheels make the GTV Navy safe and comfortable for everyday commuting.
The Vespa GTV Navy comes in a choice of two engine sizes: 125 and 250 cc. Both these ultra-modern 4 stroke engines feature four valve heads and liquid cooling. Both also offer superb performance for their size while conforming to Euro 3 emission control standards.
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Hmmm. Not a big fan of that seat color with the scoot for some reason. It works well on the GTS, but for some reason looks awkward here.

And no rear rack? How else will people be able to do this?

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They also replaced the chrome wheels with stock.
Howd you fit that dog under the seat, isnt that agin the law?
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would this model have more value later on over the sienna and portifino green if it were on a limited production run?
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Don't think so. Official commemoratives would, but I doubt minor changes to production models will have any effect on their value.


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Dunno, seems like you are giving up a lot to save a few bucks. I am happy with the 'original'.
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Breturi7, chrome wheels are a "default" on a GTV in the US, but not here in Europe.
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i got the navy coz i love the color..was contemlpating to "standardizing" it by getting the leather seats and rack..but there is no GTV navy top box with leather back rest. only sand. so might as well stick it out with "navy" specs. piaggio's line of thinking is odd. if they wanted this to be the "budget" ,model then why make it limited as stated in several sites..vespa uk being one of them..they should push the navy and make it available to all coz its a "cheaper by a few hundred option", the sienna and portofino is available all over the world.. really odd.
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scootabuddha wrote:
Dunno, seems like you are giving up a lot to save a few bucks. I am happy with the 'original'.
i guess it depends on how you look at it.. color aside, pound for pound, the sienna and portofino green would definitely be a beter deal considering the price difference..i mean how cool is the leather split seats and rack right?...on the other hand. one can find value in the fact that (well at least for now) it is only in the Navy Gtv that you can find this non leather split seat option set up as pointed out by a fellow forumer in the other thread.. (the rack for me is easy to come by and is a non issue(..and is only available till the end of this year according to a scooter news site...

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