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Yep looks like my 500 has the same issue. Didn't feel any abrading but there is a slight dent in the hose. The bike has just over 4000 miles. Will be taking care of this tonight. Thanks for the heads up Rob to check this invisible sticky thread.
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mine still has the washer I stuck between the hise and the fan 18000 miles ago. Truly a simple fix.
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I used a couple of tie wraps to pull the hose a little more than 1/4 in away from the fan housing. At least that is my temp fix until I can get more time to mess with it. Oh and there was abrading going on. The thin sleeve was worn through and a slight rub on the hose itself. Couldn't see it before.
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Even with only 400 miles on my 500
I made the repair and with under 500 miles on my MP3 - I could already see signs that I would soon be riding an air cooled MP3... Happy Thanksgiving.
Regards, Glenn Barnett convertassets@gmail.com www.convertassets.com/wanted.aspx (713) CELL 416- HOUSTON 4660 |
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Radiator Hose
Just checked mine and sure enough ... just has been said ... my 2008 with 9000 miles has the problem described. Now I'll have to decide whether just a fix or a replace and fix is required. THANKS SO MUCH for you guys and this forum. I'll definitely continue to lurk and learn!!!!!!!
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done
two zip ties to pull 'er away from the offending/abrading piece
and reinforced the hose with some heavy rubber hose I had on hand from a kayak cart project... |
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Radiator hose fix
Well I appreciate the info on the radiator hose fix but unfortunately it wore half way through on mine at 7000 miles. $200 to get it replaced. Mostly man hours but I ride 110 miles and I can't afford a blown hose. My dealer was clueless on this and never inspected for it, now they do. Piaggio sucks in providing technical service bulletins.
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Re: Radiator hose fix
fmalavolti wrote: Well I appreciate the info on the radiator hose fix but unfortunately it wore half way through on mine at 7000 miles. $200 to get it replaced. Mostly man hours but I ride 110 miles and I can't afford a blown hose. My dealer was clueless on this and never inspected for it, now they do. Piaggio sucks in providing technical service bulletins. |
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Re: Radiator hose fix
WEB-Tech wrote: fmalavolti wrote: Well I appreciate the info on the radiator hose fix but unfortunately it wore half way through on mine at 7000 miles. $200 to get it replaced. Mostly man hours but I ride 110 miles and I can't afford a blown hose. My dealer was clueless on this and never inspected for it, now they do. Piaggio sucks in providing technical service bulletins. Does any one have the Technical service bulletin or kow where to get it. I wrote Piaggio a email on this. Anyway thanks for the pics and info guys, peace out and safe riding. |
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Re: Radiator hose fix
fmalavolti wrote: WEB-Tech wrote: fmalavolti wrote: Well I appreciate the info on the radiator hose fix but unfortunately it wore half way through on mine at 7000 miles. $200 to get it replaced. Mostly man hours but I ride 110 miles and I can't afford a blown hose. My dealer was clueless on this and never inspected for it, now they do. Piaggio sucks in providing technical service bulletins. Does any one have the Technical service bulletin or kow where to get it. I wrote Piaggio a email on this. Anyway thanks for the pics and info guys, peace out and safe riding. |
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happy birthday rob
friendship has no boundary, she no language . rob, you are a perfect example for me. thank you for being my best friend, young man. loulou =) |
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This is how my hose was. I used 2 zip-ties to hold it back and black Sugru to repair the damage.
Before repair
After, Sugru applied
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About a quarter of an inch away
I checked mine last night and saw that it wasn't touching at all, while the wheels are locked... will take photos to post later. Thanks for the warning post.
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Still a problem on 2010 models
Just picked up a used (barely: 250 miles) 2010 and after reading this forum thread (while looking for information on a more serious problem ) I checked and found the hose had a shrink wrap sleeve (not very substantial) but was definitely making contact with the fan housing. Some marking, but no indentation that I could feel.
Zip-ties to the rescue. By the way, for those having trouble getting the zip-ties around the frame: Bend the tie almost into a loop, then thread it under the hose, up behind it, over the frame tube and out. Quite easy if you get the right curve on the zip-tie. |
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Rob in Denver washer fix
Rob, would you post a pic of exactly where you place the washer. In one of your posts, you stated "between the tire......."
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my '09 MP3 500 has the shrink wrap protection and someone had zip-tied around the frame and both hoses with a zip-tie with a sleeve around it, but had not tightened it enough and the tie had slipped down. This scoot has only 79 miles on it and there was already a wear mark in the protective sleeve. Tightened it up and will monitor
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My 09 500 has significant space between the fan and the hose. I will however place a zip-tie around the hose as a precautionary measure.
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European MP3 500?
hey all,
I'm in the UK with an MP3 500 (the European spec, not the US Fuoco-esque version) and I checked to see if I had this problem. But the fan housing on my bike is considerably different to the photos (see my photo). Can anyone say whether the hose rubbing is an issue on the Euro spec version anyway? If it is, then I guess I'm going to have to dismantle the fan housing to enable the OP's fix, but any input before I do this would be happly received! |
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pbw wrote: thanks Jim |
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old as dirt wrote: pbw wrote: thanks Jim Welcome to MV. |
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Another big thanks
Bought a new-old-stock MP3 500 last weekend, and just checked for this issue. Sure enough, coolant hose dented by fan housing. Seems either factory or dealer had attempted repair with hose-wrapped zip tie, but unfortunately was not tight enough. Simples.
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Piaggio 300LT MP3 fan
Hi Guy, I have the 300LT with the foot brake (European version)
I don't seam to have the problem as the fan is encased in the front coachwork. I have also posted the workshop manuals picture[img][/img] hopes this helps the 300cc European guys. |
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Thank you for the special check note on this forum
Greetings!
Wow! This pipe issued I founded in forum is awesome! Yes now I have 1000 on OD mater and yes there is dimple on the pipe sleeve. I went to The Home Depot and got Gray Flex Tubing 1'x5ft(-40-276f) $2.98 + Tax and Military Spec 8" Zip tie $6.47 (100pk) + Tax I covered both cooling pipe left and right since pipe were touching sharpy edge plastic flange so now look sleek and clean. Thanks again you all are superve! Cheers! The left side pipe. Cover all the way since the cooling pipe was touching sharpy plastic flange.
Since Flex Tubing has ditch, easy to bite by Zip tie. And importantly now there is adequate space between the motor body and the cooling pipe.
The right side cooling pipe before attach the Zip tight on the left side cooling pipe.
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I am assuming this has been fixed on the 2016 model. Anyone checked. I am about to purchase an MP-3
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howdy, i'm gonna get in this with a suggestion that the same problem exists with the bv500. I had the same wear and clearance issue with mine and solved it with the added protector like shown in several of those pics.
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Thanks for this thread. I get my 2016 MP3 very soon and I will try to check for this once I have it.
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ok, but look at the bottom of that tunnel too. Both hoses make a sharp turn to go around the tank and frame in the trip back to the engine.
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Hi guys.i m new on the website,I have a Piaggio MP3 500 from 2018 and i would like to ask what can i do to reduce the rpm versus speed.i mean if I'm driving with 140 km/h i have 7000 rpm.i would like to reduce the rpm.it s possible to do it??!!
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gabby - please start your own topic - this one is an informational one about hoses that rub through to the point of failure (long since addressed by the factory).
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