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Re: Nitrogen Tire Inflator
southbark wrote: Was curious if there were any tire inflator/repair kits for scooters or motorcycles Never used it... came across a guy with a flat on a goldwing one night. While getting the kit out of my bike a car came around a corner and made a goldwing sandwich with the other car that had stopped to help... the flat tyre wasn't really an issue after that. |
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For you tubeless tire MV riders, you can carry a small tire plug kit that you can get at pep boys. Very small and compact.... and cheap.
For inflators, you could go small and trick like this combonation hand pump / CO2 inflator designed for off-road adventure riders.. http://www.dual-star.com/index2/Tools/co2_inflator_pump.htm its great because it takes the BB cylinders and is a hand pump for emergencies. The hand pump is tiiny so it would take a lot of work but its better than nothing in an emergency! For us Vintage riders, I just carry a spare tire! Jose Soriano (edited cuz me fail english!) |
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The kits with inflators using the little cartridges are always CO2, not nitrogen. You couldn't compress enough N2 in one of those to inflate a skate wheel (think Boyles law).
Unless you have a high temperature, high speed, high pressure situation (think race cars or jet aircraft) nitrogen filling is a waste, totally useless. |
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Tor2ga wrote: The kits with inflators using the little cartridges are always CO2, not nitrogen. You couldn't compress enough N2 in one of those to inflate a skate wheel (think Boyles law). Unless you have a high temperature, high speed, high pressure situation (think race cars or jet aircraft) nitrogen filling is a waste, totally useless. Dave |
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Tell me about it, one of the car dealers in town make it seem like your car will turn into a rocket ship. It's funny to see all the cars with little green valve stem caps in parking lots and think, "that guys a sucker."
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I like the 78% blend myself. That little touch of argon and the other rare gases just sweetens it.
Maybe we could get together for a group buy of the blended stuff. Just send me your money and I will send you some. And it will be fresh US origin, not Vietnamese bodged tire gases. |
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louisq wrote: I did a lot of reading and found the cost savings did not justify the equipment costs IMNSHO.... from consumerreports.org.... "October 04, 2007 Tires - Nitrogen air loss study Filling tires with nitrogen rather than air is becoming a common practice in the replacement tire market. This service offers tire dealers another avenue for making money while also promoting safety. The claimed safety benefits often include the potential for reducing air loss compared to an air-filled tire. Maintaining proper inflation can help prevent tire overheating; promote optimum tread life; and reduce rubber aging and wheel corrosion. The use of nitrogen in large truck fleets and the commercial tire industry are well documented and support these claims. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has seen reduced aging of tires filled with nitrogen. Though the data does support that passenger car tires could benefit by all the claims made for nitrogen, tire manufacturers say that they already design tires to perform well with air inflation. And while nitrogen will do no harm, manufacturers say that they don't see the need to use nitrogen, which generally adds $5 or more per tire charge. Consumer Reports wanted to find out if nitrogen is worth the price, so we purchased a Nitrogen Inflation System and checked out how well the inflation held up over a one year period. We evaluated pairs of 31 tire models of H- and V-speed rated, all-season tires used in our tread wear test from 2006. We filled one tire per model with air and the other with nitrogen. The test was quite simple: fill and set the inflation pressure at room temperature to 30 psi (pounds per square inch); set the tire outdoors for one year; and then recheck the inflation pressure at room temperature after a one year period. The tires were filled and deflated three times with nitrogen to purge the air out of the tire cavity. We also used an oxygen analyzer to be sure we had 95-percent nitrogen purity in the tire--the claimed purity limit of our nitrogen system, which generates nitrogen gas from ambient air. The test started on September 20, 2006 and the final measurements were taken on September 20, 2007. The results show nitrogen does reduce pressure loss over time, but the reduction is only a 1.3 psi difference from air-filled tires. The average loss of air-filled tires was just 3.5 psi from the initial 30 pressure setting. Nitrogen-filled tires lost an average of 2.2 psi from the initial 30 psi setting. More important, all tires lost air pressure regardless of the inflation medium, so consumers should check their tires' air pressure routinely. No evaluation was done to assess the aging claim. Bottom line: Overall, consumers can use nitrogen and might enjoy the slight improvement in air retention provided, but it's not a substitute for regular inflation checks. --Gene Petersen NITROGEN TIRE INFLAT/SYS 20CU 12-01586 $247.00 http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/nitrogenTire.php |
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Tor2ga wrote: I like the 78% blend myself. That little touch of argon and the other rare gases just sweetens it. Maybe we could get together for a group buy of the blended stuff. Just send me your money and I will send you some. And it will be fresh US origin, not Vietnamese bodged tire gases. |
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