Modern Vespa

Hi everyone!

I am a new and proud owner of a LX150.....though i don't have my motorcycle endorsement.....yet. I am scheduled to taking my "demo" blah blah blah test next week, i have already passed the written exam and that's all thats left!


I am new to my area, and haven't really met any fellow scooterists.....yet.


My question is this, do you think they will allow me to take the test if i ride the scooter to the DMV? I have been riding it non-stop since the day i got it early this month, and I AM insured.

It will be a real pain to have to find a trailer to "tow" it to the DMV, to take my test, especially considering i have been riding for years, (50cc and less), dirt bikes and for a month my new scoot!


Does anyone have any insight or advice about how to go about this? I doubt they will care how it got to the DMV but i want to know if i am completely wrong or what. I don't mind telling a white lie to save me the hassel.

Thanks in advance!

Didn't you get a temporary permit when you passed the written test?

If you have already passed your written exam, doesn't that qualify you for a permit? Congrats on the new scooter! As for as riding it or trailoring - will leave that call to you. Good luck on your driving test!

Sounds like Maryland.
You have a learners permit ?
And can only ride with an experienced rider on the bike or next to you on a separate bike?
Have you tried to rent a U-haul. Thay have alot for 19.99 a day.
And they have a loading ramp..

You cant ride solo with your permit in Maryland?

Looks like Oregon has a pretty annoying permit program:

A motorcycle instruction permit authorizes the operation of any motorcycle during daylight hours when under the supervision of a person who is at least 21 years of age, who has a valid license with a motorcycle endorsement, who is riding a separate motorcycle, and is in visual contact with the permit holder.

Any chance you can find another rider - scooter or motorcycle - to go with you? It would be crazy to have to truck your scooter down for the test. Anybody here on MV able to help??

Ride it to within a block of the DMV and then nonchalantly push it the rest of the way.

Ciao,

Simon

Legally- no...
If you ride safe and obey all signs.. They can't tell.
Drove ( I think) 1000 miles before I tested..
Police smiled and waved but never inquired...

the thing is......i don't have my permit, i am QUALIFIED to have my permit, but decided to skip it and just get my license. i think i will just casually push it into the parking lot.


and i WOULD rent a u-haul but i am not "legal" to rent one, nor do i have the means of a pick-up to tow a trailer!


i am new to the area and don't know many people!!!


thanks everyone....
but do you think they'll notice if i ride it there? and if so, say anything?!?!?!?!

Iowa's is pretty much the same. Most obnoxious, but the MSF course was worth it anyway.

I'm pretty sure they're not going to ask, much less care, how you got your bike there. It's not like they're watching the parking lot. I think in most places people illegally drive to the DMV as a matter of routine and the DMV generally turns a blind eye. Kind of messed up, in my opinion, but it is what it is.

Actually yeah....just ride there. Park. Go stand in line.

If they ask you how you rode there without a permit, tell them you and a friend came together and your friend took off and went home, knowing you'd pass. Small white lie, but who's to say different?

All well and good except...........what if the person doesn't pass the test?

If you do elect to get the permit first, I'd be happy to ride along side...and welcome to Portlandia!

that was my plan. i was just curious if anyone thought that would be a bad idea!

my only concern is that the waiting list is about a month!!! so i get one shot. I am not worried as to how i will perform, more questioning.


thanks everyone! your all great!


and i'll take you up on that offer pdxscoot!!

Please be aware that I will be away on vacation after Aug 15 thru Sept 5. If this is in fact gonna take a month to get an appointment, I may have to let you down. If you get an appointment that works in a time when I'll be around, the offer stands.

Maryland comes out and inspects how you transported bike to DMV.
You are not allowed to unhook until they inspect.
If you have a rider or copilot, they must bring the bike to test area.
They will not take your word for it when you say your friend has left and will be back later.
Part of this is a test to see if you follow the law..

I'm on the same boat, got my GTS last sunday, got my temp permit after passing my written test. While riding (alone) in my hood, I was pulled over by the police, he threatened me with a ticket and impounding the bike (yikes!, but let me go with a hard warning. Next day I drove the bike out to take my driving test now I'm 100% legal.
The test was easy, but I came to close to a cone and was taken down a couple points.

Same with Virginia. If you can't produce a trailer or a buddy who rode with you it is an instant fail.

Same here in Louisiana. In fact, I spoke with a Sheriff's Dept. MC officer who told me that the cops would write a ticket for no license if stopped. He added that if I were involved in an accident, my insurance company would not be required to cover the loss. That shocked me, I checked with GEICO, they confirmed that. In fact, after my query, I got a certified letter from GEICO demanding that I mail them a copy of my license showing the MC endorsement or my insurance would be cancelled.

May be different in other states, but here, an improperly licensed driver is not covered; i. e. the law protects the insurance companies, not the drivers who try to defraud them.

Oh, wow. Suddenly my suggestion seems very bad indeed. Glad to hear some places are firm about it, though. Don't take this the wrong way, but that seems like common sense to me. Why would an insurance company cover a driver who isn't licensed? I'm 99.9% sure that if I checked, somewhere in my Progressive policy I'd find a line saying as much. If you're riding unlicensed, it's safe to say an insurance policy is a waste of money (which is to say, don't ride unlicensed ).

That is what i was afraid of. Does anyone from OREGON have any experience with this? your all great!

so i just had an "ah ha!" moment, why don't i just call the DMV and.........ASK!!!


so i did, i told her that i lived really close to the DMV and was wondering if i could "push" my scooter to take the test.

she said "that would be fine if you WANTED TO"

i posed the question if they will ask to prove a trailer, and/or a fellow rider.

her reply was "WE DON'T CARE HOW YOU GOT IT HERE!"

and i said ".....cool"

i LOVE Oregon!!!


let's go for a ride when you get back PDXScoot. I have been riding up in the hills of Sylvan and above the Rose Gardens a lot recently, it's so beautiful up there! But i am sure you are familiar with some better roads![/list]

When my husband went to take his written test he saw a guy get turned away because he rode his bike to take the test!

Nope, I don't take it the wrong way. The laws here are so convoluted that the first thread I posted here almost 2 months ago covered this very issue. In effect our laws say you must have an insured, properly registered and inspected MC in order to get your MC endorsement, but in order to register and inspect it you must first have your endorsement. Of course, that makes no sense at all, but that's how they read. Fortunately the OMV will let you get away with driving to the office to take your test. And, of course, if they really wanted to be bad @$$e$, they could write you a ticket if you failed.

Odd experiences.

When I got a learner's permit, I never thought about the issue of getting the bike to the test. I just rode it there. Nobody said boo - the subject didn't come up. The examiner was aware of the requirements - used the "trick" technique of suggesting that I would be more 'comfortable' without the riding jacket, but I came right back and said that it was a safety issue.

I was inexperienced and wobbly on the low-speed manuvers - bad counterbalancing. The examiner urged me to come back anytime after hours and practice the course frequently!

Went the MSF route instead and am glad I did.

In Pa. you take a 20 question written at the DMV. If you have a class (regular automobile) license, you get a permit and for on year can drive anywhere from sunup to sun down with a passenger. The permit is good for a year and renewable. I am sure man never get their Class M endorsement.

I completed the MSP course last weekend and got my class M, after about 30 days using the permit. many there said that the had not bothered to get the regular M since they only rode days anyway. They finally decided the course was worth taking.

I took the course on my GTS and loved it. I really felt it did a lot for my riding, but also made me well aware of how little I knew and how careful I need to be.

It is amazing how different different states MV laws are.