Modern Vespa

it is my understanding the Vespa S is made in China. that is part of the reason is less expensive than the lx. Although it should actually cost even less given low cost or labor and parts

I think you mean the Piaggio FLY, not the 'S'. It's well known that the current FLY is made in China. The 'S' is probably less expensive than the LX because it doesn't have the glove box or grab rail.

*in stereotypical italian accent* The place-a where a they talk-a wit their hands.

Now get away a from my car before i break-a you face!

nice beard cha-chi!

i'm actually growing one myself, i may have to out avatar you.

don't do it! I've never grown a beard before, and this thing is so itchy i'm about ready to kill somebody it's so annoying.

I'm not cutout to be a hipster or have ironic facial hair, it would seem.

don't do it! I've never grown a beard before, and this thing is so itchy i'm about ready to kill somebody it's so annoying.

I'm not cutout to be a hipster or have ironic facial hair, it would seem.

Actually I heard the S is made in China in addition to the Fly. Someone go look on your S for a "Made In China" sticker slapped on it somewhere. I heard this weekend about someone here with an S who had paint peel off when she took one of their warning stickers off...sounds like Chinese quality to me.

Nope. Mine was definitely made in Italy. It was clearly stated on the Certificate of Origin.

Interesting how the Fly has an Italian VIN number though.

If the VIN on your Vespa S starts with a 'Z', it was manufactured in Italy.

If it starts with an 'L', it was manufactured in China.

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if it pans out okay, i may get some emo glasses and a blink 182 record.

All 50cc 2 Valve 4 stroke Piaggio Engines are now made by Zongshen in China so are at least 20% of the Parts on Vespas Now. If you work on the newest batch of Piaggio scooters more and more parts that come off are clearly marked MADE IN CHINA look at The front Hub of a LX/S/LXV as an example. They use to be made by "Grimeca". Just because the Certificate of Origin was issued by Piaggio as a Italian motor driven cycle, where do you draw the line. as being made in Italy.

well i really wanted to know where abouts in italy they were being put together...but look's like it is not that easy...did'nt know some bits were from china, or put together there ??? as i was told my , gts, 125cc. was from italy...um...nevermind. martyn

vespa is still made in Italy just with 60% china parts and it may be less then that, any items made in Italy with more then 60% of the product being made somewhere else (china) has a hard time getting a lable that says Made in Italy , and they have got so smart that they have the packages made in china with Made In Italy already stamped on it

The Fly and Typhoon are both fully made in china a while back some people had a video of them being made on a visit to china it was up on Youtube

I did some more digging and turns out that Piaggio and Zongshen have a 50/50 ownership split for the factory producing the Piaggio scoots, and they have some pretty serious QC checks in place. Piaggio is also "lending" their engineers to refine/ redesign some of Zong's staple motorcycle engines for better power and mileage. China has apparently adopted the Euro2 emissions standard [can you say Olympics effect], just wonder how strict enforcement will be for product sold domestically?

As far as engrish goes the Happiness brochure isn't too bad It definitely looks like a Piaggio in the back, but the front half looks like a cross of several different euro sport scoots. I like the look, especially the blinkers integrated into the handlebar trim instead of being tacked on pods. Also has nice vespa-esq cast wheels. The 100cc engine is Euro3 rated as it is used in some models that Piaggio sells in Europe [Fly], but I'd dug around with the help of google translation and found specs on the 125cc and 150cc variants we'll see and they're listed as Euro2.

The Cama is the Zip with minor cosmetic changes, and honestly I think the Cama is the better looking of the two. Price wise it should probably sell for at least $500-$800 less than the Zip, but have yet to see US$ pricing listed anywhere. Same for the Happiness, no price yet and not sure if we'll see it as a 125cc or 150cc. There are demo models of both in the country so they are coming... probably just stuck in customs with all the Original scoots...