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Crying or Very sad emoticon Crying or Very sad emoticon Crying or Very sad emoticon One and a half hour ago I was travelling home from work in very heavy rain due to monsoon season now. I was with my full set raincoat but there were water all over. Half way home I saw a flash of lightning in the far horizon and it lasted about 2 to 3 seconds followed by a huge thunder. After a short while, another one which was closer striked and to my horrow I could feel static electricity while my fingers touches the brake level! It was a scary ride for the rest of the way home. Every time there is a lightning, I will automatically pull my fingers away from the brake level. So, Dear members of MV, please be care while riding in heavy rain! Cheers! Razz emoticon Razz emoticon Razz emoticon
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Rubber and Rain
Static Electricity...wow....
Just as a casual ponderance, I'm wondering about how rubber insulates against electrical charges. So we have our tires to break a ground connection and I have be rubber soled boots... Thinking about this....I realize an arch can happen from the metal brake handle and your hand. Huh... It's a freaky thing....
Also, I wish you could pulled over and waited it out, but since it's monsoon season, the rain might not stop for days. Freaky thing, my friend....Thanks for the heads up.
cheers...jacq
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Just as a OT comment about lightening - be safe but also aware that lightning is a serious force and mere rubber will do little to prevent a direct hit. In the late 60's Westinghouse and GE sold lightning rods. Nice theory but they soon had lawsuits as they didn't work. So they built the world's largest lightning simulators put a lightning rod on top of a phone pole and set it off. Turned that phone pole into a pile of flaming toothpicks. There is no such thing a lightning rod and in fact the current state of the art is dissipation. Lightning is a discharge between two cells of opposite potential the goal of dissipation is to bleed of the charges and not allowing them to "puddle". So if you're hit you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. You cannot build up a sufficient charge to attract a bolt. However due to your height you can be the difference between a flashover and not - an antenna as it were. Sorry so wordy but the punch line is that if you feel a static tingle you are likely near a cell and you need to get lower and the heck away from it.
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BubbaJon is right about rubber tires doing little to nothing to protect against lightning strikes. I'm no expert, but my understanding is that cars often protect against lightning not because of their rubber tires but because they form a kind of Faraday cage (no pun intended) around the driver. Electricity tends to flow around the outside of a hollow, conductive object, so as long as you don't stick any part of your body outside the car during a storm you'll usually be okay. The National Lightning Safety Institute has more information about this.

On a motorcycle or scooter, however, you have no such protective cage, and as BubbaJohn points out since your body sticks up above the rest of the bike (and other nearby objects) it could act as a sort of antenna, which is bad news. I can't think of a good way you could protect yourself in a storm (and again, I'm no expert), other than getting off your bike and seeking shelter or lower ground.

Edit: I found some more information on the NLSI site. From this page (emphasis mine):
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Knowing the above described behavior of lightning upon, say, an automobile, it is apparent that a fully enclosed metal vehicle is a safe shelter. Other all-metal mobile equipment - such as airplanes, buses, vans, and construction equipment with enclosed mostly-metal cabs - also are safe. A cautionary note, however, will emphasize that the "outer metal shield" should not be compromised. This means:
1) Windows need to be rolled up.
2) Person must not make any interior contact with external objects, such as radio dials, metal door handles, two-way radio microphones, etc.
3) Person should avoid all other objects that penetrate from inside to outside.

Unsafe vehicles include those made of fiberglass and other plastics, plus small riding machinery or vehicles without enclosed canopies, such as motorcycles, farm tractors, golf cars, and ATVs.
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A 56-year-old man was killed by lightning just south of Eagle Grove in Wright County. He and his 54-year-old wife were riding a motorcycle and had stopped to put on their rain gear. Lightning struck the man in the head, striking his helmet. The secondary strike hit his wife. They were taken to the hospital. He was in critical condition and subsequently died. She was in fair condition.
Edit 2: The National Weather Service also has some motorcycle safety tips. Now I'll stop Googling.
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Safe from a bolt
It just traveled over one-plus mile from the cloud to you, 6" rubber tire or 1" boot sole will not stop it, unless your driving in a Faraday cage. Me thinks it would tickle your nose hairs.
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BubbaJon wrote:
Just as a OT comment about lightening - be safe but also aware that lightning is a serious force and mere rubber will do little to prevent a direct hit. In the late 60's Westinghouse and GE sold lightning rods. Nice theory but they soon had lawsuits as they didn't work. So they built the world's largest lightning simulators put a lightning rod on top of a phone pole and set it off. Turned that phone pole into a pile of flaming toothpicks. There is no such thing a lightning rod and in fact the current state of the art is dissipation. Lightning is a discharge between two cells of opposite potential the goal of dissipation is to bleed of the charges and not allowing them to "puddle". So if you're hit you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. You cannot build up a sufficient charge to attract a bolt. However due to your height you can be the difference between a flashover and not - an antenna as it were. Sorry so wordy but the punch line is that if you feel a static tingle you are likely near a cell and you need to get lower and the heck away from it.
Does that mean that Huge electricity cable towers are also one of the contributers when one is near them? I was near them when it occurs and I have seen lightening striking into other cables tower before.And thanks to all for your informations. Cheers!
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