Modern Vespa

If you wetsand the clearcoat, then you polish (after the clear.)

That makes more sense than polishing before the coat. Thanks, sorry for the paint-newb question. I've never done it, but I wanna do it right.

Geesh, what a newbie

We're all learning something.

So is Tower Paints the best place to order paint? Is $12.99 a can is a bit steep (and 6 cans needed for entire P?)? I'll shell this out if needed, but just curious if there are any cheaper places for PPG automotive paint?

WOW this was an old thread


3 sheets of various sand paper 30p each + 6x Hycote satin black + 1x Hycote gloss white (didn't have satin white) = £21.83 total

then I went and spent £225 on a helmet to match

That T5 is very cool! Looks fast just standing still.

Serious - cool as hell. Can't say I've ever seen a PX like that.

I painted my scooter and it came out looking like hammered $hit...

HAH, sorry to hear. How did you do it?

Anyone seen Len around? Haven't seen him post for awhile.

Thanx alot you two glad you like.

Got 2 fingers from a mirrored mod when I gave him a wave today. That must be the second time in 3months (They give scooter riders a bad name)

I've still got a trick mirror to put on it when I sort a bracket out. Just fitted a black Lammy legshield rubber to cover the sharpish edge.

Can a scooter ever be finished

I know this will sound chinsy, but could a person cut costs by using normal paint they get at a store, then use PPG Clearcoat? Will that alleviate the issue with gas spilage?

the problem with using two different company lines is that most paints are developed in tandem to be used as a system.

Now that doesn't mean you can't use PPG Omni base coat with Glassurit clear coat. But results will vary.

I think paint is one area to use the best you can afford. Nothing sucks worse than stripping a new paint job because it came out like shite, when you could have just used the better products from the outset.

We scooterist have it good, high quality bc and cc can cost upwards of $300 a gallon. Luckly we only need a fraction of that.

Here"s a site that I came across that might help. Good luck. I'm about to paint my 1962 GL 150 myself.

Let me try this again. Hopefully the attachments will show up.

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/techinfo/HVLPspraygun

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/techinfo/tech--body-paint-index.html

What are people's thoughts on waterbased paints? These seem to be the rage tehse days, but I am unsure - do they make PPG (or high quality)water based paints?

Also, how much paint is needed to paint an entire P? A gallon? No idea what PPG prices are either.

A 1962 Ford Falcon Recieve A Budget Paint Job - The $98 Paint Job


http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/body/hrdp_0707_1962_ford_falcon_budget_paint_job/index.html

And for the adventurous ones!

ROLL IT!

http://rollyourcar.com/default.aspx

Used cheap paint, went stingy on the overcoat, tried to paint in a "too cold of a day", add my lack of talent and VOILA'....We have a scooter that looks pretty good from a distance or if I'm riding past you at measurable speed.

Down the line if you have more time. City College in SF offers a bodyshop class for motorcycles. You'll have access to all types of equipment (welders, paint guns, etc) and a painting booth. It cost me about $82 to register for it. Next one is in the fall I believe (no summer offering).

Getting ready to paint the ol' Allstate. Not too picky on a color. Other than Tower Paint, any other suggestions for ordering aerosol cans? Mucho apreciado!

he's around.

i hear he's layin low.

Cruisaire,

Many auto parts stores that carry the professional lines (DuPont, PPG, etc.) can order spray cans from their jobbers in any color in their books.

Just this month, I ordered a can of paint for silver trim (a 1960's Renault color) for about $15.00 from my local CarQuest, which carries the DuPont line.

Just go on in, ask to see their chip books, and order any color you want.

Good luck,

- Eric

Thanks Eric! Yeah, I'm thinking the custom cans is the way to go. I have access to a compressor and gun and I've got a nice area (12' x 12' by 10' high) under the deck in the backyard to frame a quickie booth. Respirator, filtering air in the booth, and a couple of other items and I could use either method. I can sand, dry, tack, recoat, etc. with no runs, drips using rattlecans. Is this the method for me?

Well, since you have access to a gun and a compressor, you certainly have the option of shooting it the "right" way (provided it's a good gun).

Advantages would include potential of better paint control and customizing your mix for the weather conditions.

Advantages to cans would include simplicity, and freedom from mixing a number of different cans of substances, all of which cost money.

I bought the can for some small trim areas (only needed a small quantity), but will probably use a gun when I shoot the whole bike in a year or so.

I am hesitant to give advice about your painting location, as I am not the most professional of painters. I have never used a paint booth of any kind - I just set up outside in the yard early in the morning (still air) on a clear dry day and have at it (and accept a bug or two in the paint...).
My father also has a dedicated room in his basement that he paints small parts in - he cut through the door and put HVAC filters in the holes and blows a box fan out the window - but paints all the big stuff in the yard.

If you have close neighbors who would get bent about a little spray dust on the petunias, or if you want to minimize bug and leaf exposure, then enclosing it probably makes sense. Do use a respirator, though - modern two part paints are nasty.

- Eric

Well, my "spray technique" is something I'd consider the result of just a little misspent youth! I can work a can with the best of them, but the thought of $$ paint, thinner, hardener, etc. plus learning this used HVLP gun makes even $14 custom cans sound like the way to go. I've got 3 auto store chains within a half mile of the house (A-Zone, Advanced, & O'reilly's). I'm thinking one of them should be able to do a custom can order. I'm wondering, though, if it'll take 5 or 6 cans of color and half as many clear?

If you've got good technique (and are not used to the spray gun), then I see no reason not to use cans on a small item like a scooter.

Not sure of the number to cover a scooter, but others on some list (don't remember which) have done it successfully, and it certainly CAN be done (unlike a car, where you'd really rather have a gun).

You'd want to buy all of the cans at once, though, to be sure all of the paint was mixed together (don't want any color variations).

I'd consider asking the list on a new thread about number of cans needed - someone's probably got a good answer.

- Eric

See - told you someone would know...

True...true! 8)

Totally agree with this post. I'm doing a rattle can right now with DuPont.

GTS NINJA Painting Project Gloss to Flat Black

Also, it's important to stick with the same brand from primer to paint to clear coat.

I went and saw evil monkey's matte black GTV. He lives pretty close to me. Shit looks great! I asked him about the number of cans, here is his reply:

Not quite sure,but I think I used 3 filler primer and 4 cans of matte.

good luck.
-m

Cool, thanks. It's looming like 3 to 6 cans for a scoot, allowing for extra/loss. Gotta find a color code or make/model for a number.

Try Colore Amico.

Some basic paint chip info scanned from an original chip book.

- Eric

Thumbs up to ya!!

Hey Len - I realize this is an old thread, but was looking up Tower Paint to order some custom paint and was a little shocked at the prices - I'm seeing $28.95 per can for Aerosol Spray Can of Waterborne Basecoat. Am I looking at the wrong product? I don't see anything close to $12 a can!

I think Tower Paint was bought, because their entire operation seems to have changed, including the paint. Now they sell water based only, which is not what I used.

Best of luck, please post pics of your project!

Len

Len - forgot to ask you, when you say "color sanding" are you talking about wet sanding?

Yup, after the clear coat I did a wet sanding to get rid of any orange peel.

One of the automobile forums had a method of using a roller to apply the paint (Rustoleum), and the results looks very decent. I used an HVLP to apply Rustoleum which is priced right, and is much simpler than using clear coat IMHO. While it's true the results are concours winning appearance, for a daily street ride they are more than adequate.