Fri May 24, 2013 9:25 am

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Fri May 24, 2013 9:25 am linkquote
Wow.. that looks great! you did with a Roller?
From here it looks tits! Nice job!

sorry man.. I didn't know my post would sart a new page.. post your pics again here.. i couldn't find 'em trying to "quote" you. put 'em up.. looks great!
Fri May 24, 2013 12:05 pm

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Rally 200, SS 180, ET3
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Fri May 24, 2013 12:05 pm linkquote
Hammer it e
Excellent! I also used Rustoleum on my Rally and also applied by roller! I've been trying to remember what it was called for ages. Thanks! It was hard to find in UK but i sourced a 5litre can...which was more than enough. (+ trusty Hammerite for the silver parts).
Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:01 am

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Ď74 Rally 200, Ď79 P200E
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Location: Nashville, TN, USA
 
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:01 am linkquote
Can anyone recommend minimum compressor specs for painting a Vespa? I have access to a 6gal compressor with 0.8HP and delivers 2.6 SCFM @ 90psi. Is that enough compressor? Thanks!
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:40 am

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1962 Vespa GS160, 1967 Vespa SS180, 1966 Vespa SS90, 1985 Vespa electric start T5, 1965 Lambretta TV200, 1966 Lambretta SX200
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:40 am linkquote
Air compressor requirements
KTU 37 wrote:
Can anyone recommend minimum compressor specs for painting a Vespa? I have access to a 6gal compressor with 0.8HP and delivers 2.6 SCFM @ 90psi. Is that enough compressor? Thanks!
In answer to your question, no, not by a long shot. The real determining factor in whether or not your air compressor will meet your needs is what you are using it for. I assume you plan on using an HVLP gun to paint your Vespa (best choice). As such you will typically need and air compressor that produces 16-20 CFM, and make sure the air is dry. Moisture needs to be eliminated from the line in order to get a proper result (key point). A two stage air compressor is best but not required. You can get a professional result doing a home paint job, but not without preparation. All this offered, you can still go with what you have but you will have trouble doing so. There are some good airless options too, in case you were wondering, but that is not what you asked, so I won't go into that now. I hope this helps.
Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:34 am

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Ď74 Rally 200, Ď79 P200E
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:34 am linkquote
Gabriel25 wrote:
KTU 37 wrote:
Can anyone recommend minimum compressor specs for painting a Vespa? I have access to a 6gal compressor with 0.8HP and delivers 2.6 SCFM @ 90psi. Is that enough compressor? Thanks!
In answer to your question, no, not by a long shot. The real determining factor in whether or not your air compressor will meet your needs is what you are using it for. I assume you plan on using an HVLP gun to paint your Vespa (best choice). As such you will typically need and air compressor that produces 16-20 CFM, and make sure the air is dry. Moisture needs to be eliminated from the line in order to get a proper result (key point). A two stage air compressor is best but not required. You can get a professional result doing a home paint job, but not without preparation. All this offered, you can still go with what you have but you will have trouble doing so. There are some good airless options too, in case you were wondering, but that is not what you asked, so I won't go into that now. I hope this helps.
Many thanks!
Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:45 am

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'63 VBB2T - '76 Sprint V. - '86 PX200E (SOLD) - '18 300 GTS Super Notte
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Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:45 am linkquote
Hi all,

Since the topic has rised from the ashes, I would like to ask some advice.

I am preparing my PX for my first paint job ever.

The bike is in pieces, everything is clean and degreased. But I might have made a mistake even before starting the process.

The floor of the bike was a little rusted, and so were a few other spots.
We are in quarantaine here for the Corona, so not much possibilities for shopping.
I wanted to threat the rust, so Iíve put Owatrol Oil on it (the only anti-rust I had in the garage).

Now Iím affraid my Motip Universal primer wonít go with the Owatrol...
What would you guys do?

Just sand it and prime over it?
Remove the Owatrol with paint stripper?

Or something else?

Thanks!!!!
Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:19 pm

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Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:19 pm linkquote
Not familiar with Owatrol or Motip but normally ALL oil and grease has to be removed from the surface before you apply any primer or paint. Some degreasers leave a residue that may be incompatible with your paint, so your safest best is to read the TDS and use the degreaser Motip recommends.
Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:55 pm

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Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:55 pm linkquote
Guys, and girls..

The floor is solved, I've removed the Owatrol with paint stripper.

I then started the body work myself. I have never done it, so it's quite an adventure.

I was quite happy with the result untill after the color coats.
But I have a major problem with the clear coat...



What have I done:
3 coats of primer (Motup Rally 1K), with a 10 minute interval between coats.
Wait 2 hours
3 coats of color (Motip Dupli Color Art 1K)
Wait 20 hours
4 coats of clear (Motip Dupli Color Art 1K)

Color was fairly nice, but clear messed things up.
What have I done wrong?


Before primer


After primer


After color


After clear


After clear

Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:29 pm

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Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:29 pm linkquote
Tried it again yesterday evening, letting only 30 minutes between the last color coat and the first clear coat.

Hapy! 8)


Before clear


After clear


This morning


This morning

Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:11 am

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Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:11 am linkquote
I will remember that when i do mine - the rippling on the last one looks factory

WELL DONE
Mon May 04, 2020 3:50 am

Hooked
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Mon May 04, 2020 3:50 am linkquote
current status 8)

Have a few small runs in the clear, and some sanding marks.
But all in all not too bad. Will never be a pro job, but happy anyways.
Will address the runs with a razor blade and will be wetsanding and polishing the whole bike.

What needs to be done: Color and clear on the frame, last coat of color and clear on a few small pieces (fender crest, horn cover grill, ...)









Tue May 05, 2020 7:43 am

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Tue May 05, 2020 7:43 am linkquote
You did good so far, that re-coat time is very very important. Donít get stressed out over doing the frame, I turned mine on itís side to do the bottom first then next day did the top but I think if ida had a way to hang it high enough to do the bottom and then lower the frame so I could do the top it would have worked.

Last edited by Lynnb on Sat May 16, 2020 7:32 am; edited 2 times in total
Sat May 16, 2020 7:27 am

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Sat May 16, 2020 7:27 am linkquote
Frame turned out just fine!

Sat May 16, 2020 7:34 am

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Sat May 16, 2020 7:34 am linkquote
Came out great, you did good.
Sat May 16, 2020 8:34 am

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Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
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Sat May 16, 2020 8:34 am linkquote
Beautiful work!
Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:01 pm

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Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:01 pm linkquote
Great job! You used DupliColor's Spray Paint, correct? If so, how many cans did you need for the entire job?
Thanks!
DD_VES wrote:
Guys, and girls..

The floor is solved, I've removed the Owatrol with paint stripper.

I then started the body work myself. I have never done it, so it's quite an adventure.

I was quite happy with the result untill after the color coats.
But I have a major problem with the clear coat...



What have I done:
3 coats of primer (Motup Rally 1K), with a 10 minute interval between coats.
Wait 2 hours
3 coats of color (Motip Dupli Color Art 1K)
Wait 20 hours
4 coats of clear (Motip Dupli Color Art 1K)

Color was fairly nice, but clear messed things up.
What have I done wrong?
Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:14 pm

Hooked
'63 VBB2T - '76 Sprint V. - '86 PX200E (SOLD) - '18 300 GTS Super Notte
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Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:14 pm linkquote
jbassman wrote:
Great job! You used DupliColor's Spray Paint, correct? If so, how many cans did you need for the entire job?
Thanks!
Hi,
Itís been a while, but I think about 10 cans of each.
Caution: 1K is not resistant to gas! 😉
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