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Hello every one.
As I have mentioned in a previous post, I have a 1961 Allstate, which is comparable to the VNB1T Vespa. I am rebuilding the motor at this time and have the old Dell'Orto UA 16 SI carburetor. It too is in many pieces and I was told it is near to impossible to get rebuild kits and bits. I have been offered a Spaco SI 20, labled P1054. Does anyone know if this is compatable to my VNA1M stamped, piston port 125?
Please help.
-David
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No. it is absolutely NOT compatible.
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Eric your pic looks so menacing now. That might put an end to the idolizing fans Razz emoticon
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If a complete carb for that engine is worth something to you, i might have a hookup.


And i don't want any fans. It's creepy.
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David... did you check with Eurocarb Ltd.? - www.dellorto.co.uk ?? I'd be surprised if they couldn't help you. You may have to contact them directly because they often have stuff not listed on the site.
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Thanks for the link.
Thanks for the dellorto uk link.
I'll check 'em out!
-David

And just to let every one know why I ask so many questions, this is my first vespa. I am learning as I go, so thank you for your patience.
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carb as it is
Well, I sat down and looked at all the pieces.
I have these in the pictures, but I don't have a schematic to know what is missing. Can anyone help? Does this look usable?
-David
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carb
No air box or rubber piece that goes through the body to get fresh air...
I think I can find those at scooterworks or scooterpartsdirect.com....
Any specific way to make sure it's in workable condition before I buy an other one?
-David
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You can get a pdf copy of a vnb parts manual at scooterhelp.com.

Very useful.

http://www.scooterhelp.com/serial/vespa.parts.html
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HI Guys,

I also am new to vespa and have almost completed a resto on a bike that sounds much like the one I the thread, also struggling with the Carb as when I turn the fuel on the carb just overflows immediately, would like to see a diagram of carb or know of a direct replacement (new) or a used float chamber with innards.ps, based in UK.
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That carb is so touchy and finicky. Best bet is to do a total rebuild and leave it soaking in some gas or carb cleaner to clean out the jets and any crevices that might have build up.

Provided is the link to a VNA carb rebuild:
http://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Carb-Gasket-Kits/CGUA16

SIP has the PDF document along with a list of parts to order for the carb:
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/main/service/PartsCataloguesList.aspx?dim=old&cat=13692FCD-65DA-4BA3-B9F8-6863F1EB353E&_language=

Good Luck!
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Great info. Thanks very much. Funnily enough, I was standing in the queue in my local lambretta store and a guy said to me I have one of those and gave me it gratis!

This vespa thing is definatly feeling like a community.

Steve
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Hi, I just acquired a VNA from 1960
, vespa Allstate.

It seams I have the same problem.
Would you have the steps to clean and make sure the pieces are here?

Some of the links shared above are not active anymore. A video or a pdf would be very helpful. Thanks to everyone.

Charles
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