OP
@tonysmallframe avatar
UTC

Hooked
90ss, et3
Joined: UTC
Posts: 263
Location: dc
 
Hooked
@tonysmallframe avatar
90ss, et3
Joined: UTC
Posts: 263
Location: dc
UTC quote
My club (or, mostly AirborneVespa) is setting up a new cannonball to be run next June. Close to 1000 miles in 2 days. No chase trucks. No GPS systems. One class (vintage/shift scooters). No point systems - best time wins. I'll most likely be doing it on my 90ss, as the more uncomfortable you are, the faster you should go. It will be based around the DC area.

edit - and as it isn't a true cannonball, the name should be changing.
@rover_eric avatar
UTC

Moderator
1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 6980
Location: Detroit, Michigan
 
Moderator
@rover_eric avatar
1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 6980
Location: Detroit, Michigan
UTC quote
Neat.

I like the idea of just having one single class ( though i understand why what has morphed into the current cannonball must have them ) ...

And i like the idea of a 90ss winning, so .... get on that. Perhaps you can secretly mount a GPS unit in the dummy tank. Or pee in there so you don't have to stop.
OP
@tonysmallframe avatar
UTC

Hooked
90ss, et3
Joined: UTC
Posts: 263
Location: dc
 
Hooked
@tonysmallframe avatar
90ss, et3
Joined: UTC
Posts: 263
Location: dc
UTC quote
I'm trying to work out motor choices. I have the following (from least HP to most, also from best MPG to worst)

v90 - stock
90ss - stock
90ss - dr130, 19/19
et3 - stock
pk125 - case matched malossi 136, direct inlet reed, tm24

Or, I could build either of the following

M1 - tmx26
FALC - 154cc, tmx30

The FALC would give me roughly 26ish hp with a pretty slack street tune - but I'm guessing I would get 30-50 miles per tank.

I'm thinking a good compramise would be either the DR130 or Malossi 136 motor. DR should cruise alright at 55-60ish, and get 35-40mpg. Malossi should cruise decently at 70ish, and get 30ish mpg.
@rover_eric avatar
UTC

Moderator
1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 6980
Location: Detroit, Michigan
 
Moderator
@rover_eric avatar
1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 6980
Location: Detroit, Michigan
UTC quote
i miss my ET3 so bad.
OP
@tonysmallframe avatar
UTC

Hooked
90ss, et3
Joined: UTC
Posts: 263
Location: dc
 
Hooked
@tonysmallframe avatar
90ss, et3
Joined: UTC
Posts: 263
Location: dc
UTC quote
It's for the best. Smallframes aren't cut out for everyone.

External inline image provided by member with no explanatory text
@rover_eric avatar
UTC

Moderator
1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 6980
Location: Detroit, Michigan
 
Moderator
@rover_eric avatar
1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 6980
Location: Detroit, Michigan
UTC quote
i know...

airborne and i are about the same size / build. 'twas not meant to be.
@poopshotgun avatar
UTC

Hooked
1958 LD 150 Mark III, 1985 CH150D
Joined: UTC
Posts: 161
Location: Eugene, OR
 
Hooked
@poopshotgun avatar
1958 LD 150 Mark III, 1985 CH150D
Joined: UTC
Posts: 161
Location: Eugene, OR
UTC quote
Rover Eric wrote:
i know...

airborne and i are about the same size / build. 'twas not meant to be.
Yer just not doing it right. Think "Bear on Tricycle". Here's my buddy Todd from up in P-Town, who may be a bit taller than both of you:

External inline image provided by member with no explanatory text
@theoz avatar
UTC

Sir Frets-A-Lot
Vespa GT250ie/L, Honda Ruckus 50, Honda NT700V, Honda CB125
Joined: UTC
Posts: 11197
Location: Bee eff eee.
 
Sir Frets-A-Lot
@theoz avatar
Vespa GT250ie/L, Honda Ruckus 50, Honda NT700V, Honda CB125
Joined: UTC
Posts: 11197
Location: Bee eff eee.
UTC quote
As I remember hearing about it, it's a pretty cool idea.

I guess Rocket on his P200 would not be allowed to use his GPS tho That's probably how Rocket won the vintage class this past cannonball. That and Roy's bike bit a clutch spring and the woodruff key...

My 90 is not up to the task yet. Though in a few weeks, if I had money after all the replacement parts I'm putting in to my GT, I'm sure I could get it running better.
UTC

Ossessionato
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2633
 
Ossessionato
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2633
UTC quote
I've never seen a small frame up close. Are they really that much smaller than a large frame?
@rover_eric avatar
UTC

Moderator
1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 6980
Location: Detroit, Michigan
 
Moderator
@rover_eric avatar
1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 6980
Location: Detroit, Michigan
UTC quote
VLBJS1 wrote:
I've never seen a small frame up close. Are they really that much smaller than a large frame?
Yeah...shorter, lighter, and the legshields are much thinner too ( notice there's only room for 2 rubber / aluminum strips on the floor on either side rather than 3 on largeframes )

Those guys are riding those SS90's in the racing tucked-in style, though ...using the pad on the dummy tank. It looks stupid if you're a big guy
@poopshotgun avatar
UTC

Hooked
1958 LD 150 Mark III, 1985 CH150D
Joined: UTC
Posts: 161
Location: Eugene, OR
 
Hooked
@poopshotgun avatar
1958 LD 150 Mark III, 1985 CH150D
Joined: UTC
Posts: 161
Location: Eugene, OR
UTC quote
[quote="Rover Eric"]
VLBJS1 wrote:
Those guys are riding those SS90's in the racing tucked-in style, though ...using the pad on the dummy tank. It looks stupid if you're a big guy
Todd is riding an old 50 special with an ET3 engine and a DR 133 top end, without a dummy tank (unless you're refering to his head).
UTC

Ossessionato
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2633
 
Ossessionato
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2633
UTC quote
Sorry about taking this way off topic, but a friend of mine she's super tiny 5'1 and wants a vintage scoot. Would she be able to sit and put her feet down on the ground on a small frame?
@theoz avatar
UTC

Sir Frets-A-Lot
Vespa GT250ie/L, Honda Ruckus 50, Honda NT700V, Honda CB125
Joined: UTC
Posts: 11197
Location: Bee eff eee.
 
Sir Frets-A-Lot
@theoz avatar
Vespa GT250ie/L, Honda Ruckus 50, Honda NT700V, Honda CB125
Joined: UTC
Posts: 11197
Location: Bee eff eee.
UTC quote
Rover Eric wrote:
VLBJS1 wrote:
I've never seen a small frame up close. Are they really that much smaller than a large frame?
Yeah...shorter, lighter, and the legshields are much thinner too ( notice there's only room for 2 rubber / aluminum strips on the floor on either side rather than 3 on largeframes )

Those guys are riding those SS90's in the racing tucked-in style, though ...using the pad on the dummy tank. It looks stupid if you're a big guy
Patrick insists that the design of the UnStealth made it more comfortable than his Sym HD200, after riding them both approximately the same distance.

I could buy it. My back was wrenched after an extended tuck.
UTC

Hooked
1974 Rally 200, 2009 Yamaha C3, 2010 Honda SH150i
Joined: UTC
Posts: 403
Location: san francisco
 
Hooked
1974 Rally 200, 2009 Yamaha C3, 2010 Honda SH150i
Joined: UTC
Posts: 403
Location: san francisco
UTC quote
VLBJS1 wrote:
Sorry about taking this way off topic, but a friend of mine she's super tiny 5'1 and wants a vintage scoot. Would she be able to sit and put her feet down on the ground on a small frame?
yes, but often it's not the height that poses the biggest problem, it's the left wrist. a lot of those small frames you gotta be the fuckin hulk to shift that shit, and ignore the pain in the wrist till you get used to it.
@wangta avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
'10 GTS 300 Super, '79 Vespa P200E, '04 Vespa PX200, 2011 SportCity 300 Cube [Sold]
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2923
Location: San Francisco, CA
 
Ossessionato
@wangta avatar
'10 GTS 300 Super, '79 Vespa P200E, '04 Vespa PX200, 2011 SportCity 300 Cube [Sold]
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2923
Location: San Francisco, CA
UTC quote
Re: Cannonball Reborn?
tonysmallframe wrote:
My club (or, mostly AirborneVespa) is setting up a new cannonball to be run next June. Close to 1000 miles in 2 days. No chase trucks. No GPS systems. One class (vintage/shift scooters). No point systems - best time wins. I'll most likely be doing it on my 90ss, as the more uncomfortable you are, the faster you should go. It will be based around the DC area.

edit - and as it isn't a true cannonball, the name should be changing.
Nice. Finally, an EAST TO WEST run!
@rover_eric avatar
UTC

Moderator
1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 6980
Location: Detroit, Michigan
 
Moderator
@rover_eric avatar
1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 6980
Location: Detroit, Michigan
UTC quote
well.. the FIRST cannonball ( 2005 ) was an east to west run. The second ( 2007 ) was west to east, from portland to NJ.

And this new one would NOT be a cross-country trip...( 1000 miles from DC does NOT equal cross country ! )

Modern Vespa is the premier site for modern Vespa and Piaggio scooters. Vespa GTS300, GTS250, GTV, GT200, LX150, LXS, ET4, ET2, MP3, Fuoco, Elettrica and more.

Modern Vespa is made possible by our generous supporters.

Buy Me A Coffee
 

Shop on Amazon with Modern Vespa

Modern Vespa is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com


All Content Copyright 2005-2025 by Modern Vespa.
All Rights Reserved.


[ Time: 0.0180s ][ Queries: 3 (0.0079s) ][ live ][ 334 ][ ThingOne ]