Modern Vespa

Oh don't be polite on my behalf.

I suspect a driver attempted to move it in order to park, and when they failed, it tipped over. They left it on its side. Crash bars saved the paint.

I live on a cul de sac which has no through traffic, and is the last road before the one way system kicks in. Hence very attractive to park in, and people do all sorts of stupid shit so they don't have to walk another four yards.

Scum, didn't you say you live in Hammersmith

Pulled up behind you and Mr wonder at the lights on way home on sat, has to be said that is one fine scoot.

Thanks 558. I am fighting to preserve it at the moment.

Mr WM suggested that I have some enemy neighbour who likes to tip it over, I find this unlikely because most people can't be bothered to be that deliberately horrible.

I like Hammersmith but since I have lived here I have had scooters tipped, vandalised and numerous things stolen. I do accept that London has its proportion of arses, but this is final straw. I will be moving to a suburban hell with a garage.

Come down to the South East where people are really nice and garages are plentyful.

What the hell is wrong with people ?

Thank God that you had the crashies on it.

Time to move.

Bill X

Thats crap! I would install CCTV, just in case you have a nut of a neighbour. (they are all out there)

Just a little update on tonight's demo which I also posted on the other thread...

Seemed to be as big if not bigger than last time. We stopped the traffic for a long time on Park Lane, Haymarket and Picadilly. I left when it got a little bit silly at about 8.50 coming down Regent St onto Picadilly Circus - Shaftesbury Avenue toward Holborn was beckoning and it was beginning to get chilly. Saw one collision when a Mediterranean looking guy deliberately drove his LHD Range Rover into a biker in front of me as we sailed through a signal that was against us (which was pretty much par for the course). There was a little bit of an altercation and the driver of the RR regretted his temperament when confronted by angry biker. Not that anyone was gonna get anywhere any quicker. There was some lovely girl in a black rubber frock, who stood up at the front and took off her yellow vest to reveal a pink boob tube. It was only when she was in front of me later in the ride and stood up to wiggle her ass and reveal her touche that I realised she was wearing no knickers.

Mr Wonder Machine was there but we lost each other on the ride. Talking of WM, Kate has rechristened the SHitty. The Golden Shower performed beautifully throughout, except when the clutch got a little too hot and developed a horrible overheat judder. Not good for doing slow rolling road blocks but better than several big bikes that overheated and had to be pushed to the side. Missed you all, Kate I believe you are not feeling (self-induced) well; Charles we missed your dry wit; and Kam your loveliness. Genie was under curfew and Bill too far away. Maybe next time. An enjoyable evening. Westminster might start listening when the people start getting pissed off with us.

Maver and Jim - I'm starting to think that you are right and I'm wrong about the vibration problem.
Now I think it may well be the tyres that are causing it because it's the only thing that's changed and I was pretty anal about the way the back end all went back together and lets face it a belt and rollers wouldn't have worn enough to cause it at 3000 miles.
So I'm going to take the wheels back out on Saturday and get them both balanced.
I mean what harm can it do ? At least I know it's not going to be them causing it.
All because the vibration is happening at certain speeds and certain loads of torque it doesn't mean it's coming from the engine and gearbox.
Hands up, I may have got this totally wrong.

Regards

Bill X

Wonder, a pox on those vile idiots in your neighborhood!!

Maybe creth95 should take you shopping to cheer you up--

Pub/dinner plans sound marvelous-- many thanks-- Well, now. Making plans early for the Rubber Ball....?

Muahahaha!! You know it! lol

Cocksuckers, all of them, Wonder.

God damn, Wonder, you have had no luck with the Machine lately. Time to wire the frame up to the mains methinks.

I had to take the GP800 to the shop this morning because I couldn't undo a rusted bolt by myself. Am I the wimpiest wimp in Wimpsville, Wimpini or what?

no, that would be me. i'm so feeble that i have to use pliers to take the top off the toothpaste

Followed an aprilia mana for a few miles on the way home today. I think I'm in love.

Anyone want to buy a black gts?

why do i find this so scary?

Believe me they ride as good as they look. I'd buy the 300 but I want a brand new one.

I've got the wheels out of the Hornet to be balanced on Saturday and I'm looking at the spacer and thinking the spacer does infront of the flange washer but inside the locating plate /hanger doesn't it ? Then the nut and castleated nut with the split pin because that's the way I put it in the last time and it didn't seem to affect it if it went in wrong.

So it goes flange/spacer/plate/nut/castle nut/split pin ? Correct ?

Forgive me for checking but the vibration really was unsettling and I need to sort it soon if only in my head.

Bill X

You find that pic scary Genie ? For me that's the perfcet date.

Assuming it's the same as all other Piaggio bikes I've tinkered with, and that the parts diagram is indeed correct for once, only the conical spacer is 'inside' the hanger. Then the hanger goes on, then the thick washer/spacer, then the nut etc.

If the thick washer/spacer was on the inside, that might well account for the vibration. Check the bearing in the hanger is still OK!

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reminds me of trinity from the matrix movies

No spacer or thick washer goes after the plate under the nut (nuts always hould have some sort of washer underneath - to protect that bearing in the exhaust plate), will check later but as Jim says I am sure this is the correct way.

So my above order is correct ? If you mount the hanger without the spacer on it's inside- between the hanger and the flange there is a space where the spacer should be.

That's my logic.

Bill X

I think we're all getting muddled in terminology here!



14 is the thick washer/spacer.
7 is the bearing.
15 is the conical spacer.

6 is called the 'suspension arm', referred to variously in this bit of bollocks as hanger, plate, and elsewhere incorrectly as swingarm.

is this any help?



on a side note, i believe the part referred to as the "conical spacer" is captive on the GTs

and i am one of the guilty party incorrectly referring to the suspension arm as a "swingarmexhausthangerthingy" however i do think folk know what i'm talking about when i use my bastardised term

So the thick washer/spacer does go between the bearing in the hanger and the nut that holds the wheel in place then the castle-
ated nut goes on.

My brain hurts.

Bill X

Looking at Mavers picture the washer sits behind the nut but on the outside of the suspension arm hanger type thingy.

Looking at Jims picture it does the same - the washer/spacer sits between the bearing and the nut that holds the wheel in place.

Are we /I clear ? Thank you to both.

maver goes to his scooter to take some more detailed pictures........

**elevator music plays**

best i can do at the moment, don't know if this makes things any clearer....

photo taken from underneath gold thing is PM bracket.........

So the washer/spacer sits underneath the nut on the outside of the suspension arm.

Thanks Maver for going above and beyond.

Well done fella.

Bill X

no problem bill, nothing worse than doubt

on a side note, due to my new single status and consequent change of abode i've invested in some new security for the pathfinder.....

2.5m Almax immobiliser III chain and squire CEN6 category lock......

chain weighs 2 STONE

ground anchor has solid bar, made by that diamond tractor loving man that is Sir Gavin of the Broardsmen, a master of all things metal 8)



the wall is 2 bricks thick................much more solid than it looks, out of veiw from the road and entry is a locked 5 bar gate that protects Mav's new country pile


8)

Kate, I'm so so sorry to hear about your scoot AGAIN!! aaaaaaggh
I have to say parking on the street is shite, on my street there's a bay at the bottom of the hill and when it's windy, the scoots tip on one another causing bowling effect, heartbreaking.

then another girl has a sky blue LX, parks on the street, it was brand new, now it's damaged on the side of the hill, I think the cars touch it like in your case, don't know that they would deliberately move the bike on my street

you need a place with a little cot for your lovely WM3!!

ahhhhh I saw the demonstration yesterday as I sat at the pub off baker street contemplating the record work I've done in record time - I'd just finished printing it off etc
I was so proud to have a helmet next to me in the pub, I felt like I belonged to a lovely group of individuals and that everyone in the pub wished they were part of the club too
I was pillion with Alex and still on the deadline so rode off home straight after the celebratory pint

Bill - when you get the wheels balanced, do some pics of "the order of things" and post them up so we have some reference in the future 8)

I would if I had a digital camera but with your help I can now confirm that the washer/spacer does go behind the wheel nut on the outside of the hanger.
I can sleep now.
Alright hands up I'd located it on the inside which is why it all went a bit wrong and with any luck when it goes back together it should have gone but I've learnt something so I'm happy.
Jim the bearing is fine because it gooes round and around smoothly.

Regards

Bill X

as a final touch maver you might want to think of getting a cover. i've noticed that the toerags (at least the london variety) enjoy simply farking with things that they know they can't steal - i've got a couple of legshield badges that showed signs of tampering until i slapped a cover on the Interloper. out of sight out of mind. well out of their tiny minds i hope.

i'm still scared of the rubber lady. i think it's the black lipstick. she looks like she eats babies for breakfast

She's just a human being just like everybody else Genie.

Roll on Amsterdam Nov 09.

Regards

Bill X

I have seen that lady in rubber somewhere before?

cheers Genie, it's all in hand, a mate of mine recently purchased a used GTs and the previous owner included in the sale all the accessories he bought with the scooter, he bought EVERYTHING and then never used ANY of it, my mate doesn't need the "genuine waterproof Vespa GTs cover with zip out extensions for top box and windscreen" unused still in the bag, so he's passing it onto me 8) good to have friends 8)

i thought she looked more like toyah wilcox.........

I'm with you and yes, it's the black lipstick. In my case, though, it's bringing my head back to the too many zombie movies I've seen. Black bile and such. Blech.

I wonder where she got here boobs chromed, thats a cool 8) mod.

no, she's a human being in a rubber outfit that looks like it would take 45 minutes to get into. give me a nice plain cotton t-shirt any day of the week. and i'll pass on the black lippie too

You are a witch, I thought of Zoe W instantly I saw that.

Bring on the dunking !



Serafina
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By George I think you've got it. I didn't think it would have suffered, but it would depend on how much 'vibration' you allowed to happen. Good job you appreciated 'something was up'.

I've done things up the wrong way before myself, luckily always managed to sort it out before confessing to anyone else.

All's well that ends well. And an easy fix to boot.

Thanks Jim. I've never had a problem admitting that I've got something wrong just as long as I've learnt something, be it about something or someone.

I only rode 75 miles with it in the wrong place and I only felt the vibes on my return journey from London. I've spun the bearing and it looks and feels undamaged.

Fingers crossed.

Ride safe

Bill X