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Created article Vespa LX 150

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Love the picture of the LX, but it's pretty big. And this is a good opportunity to demonstrate how to get a picture into an article: upload it to the discussion area, and then link from there. Like so:
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The link for that image, once uploaded, becomes:
http://www.modernvespa.com/pix/uploads/vespa_lx_150_205.jpg
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jess wrote:
The link for that image, once uploaded, becomes:
http://www.modernvespa.com/pix/uploads/vespa_lx_150_205.jpg
I get a big "forbidden" when i attempt to go to that location...?
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Hotlinking is disabled. You can't paste it into the address bar, but if you use that URL in an img tag, it will work.
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You can't see the contents of the uploads directory, but the link directly to the image should work:

http://www.modernvespa.com/pix/uploads/vespa_lx_150_205.jpg

And, as Ian says, putting it between image tags should work:

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I'm making some revisions to make this more consistent with the GTS article with similar information. (It's a lot!)

And a new photo showing both sides...
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Rock on, guys! That's fantastic.
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So... What to do about the 50cc scoots? Do they really need another article?
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Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:16:16 +0000 quote
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So... What to do about the 50cc scoots? Do they really need another article?
Good question. They either need their own, or the spec section needs another column.
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ericalm wrote:
So... What to do about the 50cc scoots? Do they really need another article?
Good question. They either need their own, or the spec section needs another column.
I can add the info. Can you change the article title and slug?
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Done.
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Uploading a couple pix...
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Man, an LXV with an S seat would be amazing.
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Man, an LXV with an S seat would be amazing.
Two have gone for under $100 on eBay in the past week or so. Guess people want the 2-up capability.
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Yeah, I know. I was just making an aesthetic observation. Practically, I would rather have a GT since my P is roughly the same size and capability as the LX.
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"Here's the complete collection of workshop manuals and parts books in PDF format. To avoid using too much of our bandwidth, please consider saving these manuals to your hard drive after downloading them."
It's not entirely complete ... LX125 is missing from the list. I asked about it on the forum a few weeks ago but got no response. The LX125 does exist in other parts of the world. Is the 150 manual exactly the same as the 125?

Modifications and Maintenance Sections:

It would be great if those who are presenting modifications and or maintenance procedures for LX150's might also indicate, "This will also work for LX50's and LX125 models". Or alternatively, "This will work on LX150 but not on LX50 and I'm not sure about the LX125."

LX125 is overlooked somewhat and I realize that those of us with the 125 model are definitely in the minority but ...
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"Here's the complete collection of workshop manuals and parts books in PDF format. To avoid using too much of our bandwidth, please consider saving these manuals to your hard drive after downloading them."
It's not entirely complete ... LX125 is missing from the list. I asked about it on the forum a few weeks ago but got no response. The LX125 does exist in other parts of the world. Is the 150 manual exactly the same as the 125?

Modifications and Maintenance Sections:

It would be great if those who are presenting modifications and or maintenance procedures for LX150's might also indicate, "This will also work for LX50's and LX125 models". Or alternatively, "This will work on LX150 but not on LX50 and I'm not sure about the LX125."

LX125 is overlooked somewhat and I realize that those of us with the 125 model are definitely in the minority but ...
Few of us in have direct experience with the both the 125s and 150s, but as far as I know, almost everything is the same between the 125 and 150 except for displacement. I just looked at the LX Euro specs and that is the only difference I could identify, though the UK spec sheet did not list dry weight and some other information provided in the US specs. This being the Wiki, though, we could use some input from anyone who may have familiarity with both.

The modifications and so on in the LX article are all just links to individual articles on those mods. The place to address compatibility with the 125s would be in each of those individual articles, which may then need a corrected subject line.

The language re: "complete collection" of manuals is in the Workshop Manuals article and should be mentioned in its discussion thread.
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as far as I know, almost everything is the same between the 125 and 150 except for displacement.
There's one more difference that I've heard rumors of: I believe the final drive gearing ratio is different between the LX150 and LX125. The parts are interchangeable when the two gears are kept paired, but the ratio of gearing is different.

There's also the US-spec turn signals, but I'm not sure if this counts as a difference, more of a kluge for the US market.

Other than displacement, final drive gearing, and the US turn signals, I believe the LX125 and LX150 are identical. If someone knows of some other differences, please let us know.
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Badges are different. Sorry couldn't help myself.
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Under "Maintenance Procedures For This Model" you could add:

ET4: Gear Box Oil Change

and

Greasy's Oil Change Method
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I have just discovered that my scooter has a "Know Issue" which Piaggio is aware of and which they have told dealers to fix under warranty.

It is a problem with the swing arm mount which causes a horrendously loud and very annoying squeaking/chirping noise every time you go over a bump. The scooter sounds like an old rattletrap!

I started a thread here: http://www.modernvespa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=516882#516882 and after reading some of the replies in that thread, I did a lot of searching on Google and finally found this thread: http://www.modernvespa.com/forum/topic14742?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 from August last year which refers to the exact same thing. I guess they are still using the old parts which were defective since mine is a 2008 model and this problem dates back quite some time!!!

So the point of this post is to suggest that a "Known Issues" article in the Wiki would be helpful for the various models.
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Why can't you edit in this thread? I wanted to correct a "speeling" mistake: "Known Issues"
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I don't know if anyone is actually reading this thread ... but I got out my "Certificate of Conformity" and did the specs for the LX125 if you want to add it to your table shown at http://www.modernvespa.com/forum/wiki-lx

Sorry but I have no idea how to go about editing a table!

Note: I converted all metric measurements so most of your audience will have a better grasp of speed, size, etc.

Unfortunately, no matter what I do ... I cannot format this to look any better than the mess below. If you want me to send it to you in WORD format, let me know.

MODEL LX125
CHASSIS
FRAME TYPE Load-bearing steel chassis with welded structural supports
ENGINE Piaggio - Single cylinder, 4 stroke
TYPE M444M Single cylinder, four-stroke
CYLINDER CAPACITY 124cc
BORE X STROKE 2.2" x 1.9" or (57.0 x 48.6 mm)
MAX POWER AT SHAFT 7.65 kW at 8250 RPM 8.7 kW at 7,750 rpm (11.7 CV)
MAX TORQUE 9.60 Nm (1.0 kgf-m or 7.1 ft.lbs) @ 6000 RPM
MAX SPEED 56.5 mph (91 km/h)
FUEL/TANK CAPACITY Unleaded 91 min octane / 2.27 gallons (8.60 liters)
GAS MILEAGE Not Specified
DISTRIBUTION Cam head single shaft-SOHC (2 valves)
COOLING SYSTEM Ram air with sound proof cover
LUBRICATION Not Specified
IGNITION Electric and kick start
GEARS CVT transformer with torque slave
CLUTCH Automatic dry centrifuge with damper buffers
TYPE APPROVAL
WEIGHT AND DIMENSIONS
SEAT HEIGHT 29.1338" or (740 mm)
DRY WEIGHT 250.8 lbs or (114 kg) - Unladen Mass
LENGTH/WIDTH/
WHEELBASE Wheel Base 50.3937 inches or (1280 mm)
Length 70.8661 inches or (1800 mm)
Width 29.1338 inches or (740 mm)
Height 44.8818 inches or (1140 mm)

WHEELS AND TIRES
FRONT TIRE/REAR TIRE Tubeless 110/70-11" & Tubeless 120/70-10"
SUSPENSIONS AND BRAKES
FRONT SUSPENSION Single Arm with coil spring and dual effect single shock absorber
REAR SUSPENSION Coil spring with adjustable pre-load and dual effect single shock absorber
FRONT BRAKE Single Disc - 7.9" or (200 mm) diameter
REAR BRAKE Expanding Brake (drum Brake) - 4.3" or (110 mm) diameter
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There's one more difference that I've heard rumors of: I believe the final drive gearing ratio is different between the LX150 and LX125. The parts are interchangeable when the two gears are kept paired, but the ratio of gearing is different.
The drive gear ratio on my "Certificate of Conformity" is listed as follows:

1:23.69 & 1:7.11

I have no idea what this means or if it even makes sense ... but that's what is listed.
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Another difference on the 125's is the handlebar "button" array as noted here: http://www.modernvespa.com/forum/topic23579?start=40
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Hey TrafficJammer,

I just wanted to let you know that I saw this and I'll get to it soon. If you could attach that word doc to a post here, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!
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OK ... I didn't know you could do that and I am not sure how to do it but I am guessing it is done just like a photo?
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We're definitely reading, and thanks for compiling the data!
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My pleasure! If there is anything else I can help with in regards to the 125, let me know ... I'd be happy to do what I can.
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Do you have the original measurements (metric) as well? I ask because those are probably more relevant to those in place where the 125s are sold, which I think is of more interest than a 125/150 comparison. We can put both sets on there.

The LX Series entry is going to be divided up into smaller articles soon as I have a chance to get to it.
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I thought I provided both! Which measurement(s) is missing?
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I thought I provided both! Which measurement(s) is missing?
Oh, sorry-my bad! You did provide both. Uh, good job!
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no problem!
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No euro turn signal conversion article for the wiki? That seems like a fairly popular mod.
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No euro turn signal conversion article for the wiki? That seems like a fairly popular mod.
Got a pointer to a post we might turn into an article?
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I've split off the LXS and LXV into separate articles but didn't include copies of all the links for FAQs, maintenance, etc. in each one because it seemed once one article had an edit or addition, it would be a pain to copy that to each article rather than just the "main" one. I can copy them to each one if that still makes sense, though.

Jess, I can;t change the subject of the Vespa LX article to "Vespa LX Range." Do you mind?

Thanks
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Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:38:01 +0000 quote
ericalm wrote:
Jess, I can;t change the subject of the Vespa LX article to "Vespa LX Range." Do you mind?
Changing the name of the wiki article is in an unexpected place (which is my fault): edit the first post of the discussion thread (you should have power to do that) and it will change the name of the wiki article.
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Oh, and: nice work!
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Looks like it worked. Thanks!
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