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has anyone cut their smallframe crank according to the malossi top end kit instructions? results, opinions?
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I've done it on large frames but it's a lot of work. Given the fact that you'll be cutting an old crank in questionable condition I'd just go with getting a "race crank" that comes cut and polished with a better bigend bearing.
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Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:42:14 +0000
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oopsclunkthud wrote: I've done it on large frames but it's a lot of work. Given the fact that you'll be cutting an old crank in questionable condition I'd just go with getting a "race crank" that comes cut and polished with a better bigend bearing. I've got a small taper one I'll sell you if you need it. |
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Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:02:15 +0000
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you can always open up the inlet port on the casings by the same amount.It gives the same duration as recomended but stops the imbalance of the crank and so cuts down vibration.Better for a commuter.
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Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:28:54 +0000
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The ET3 cranks already have a longer intake duration on the crank. Those and 100 sports have the longest. The 2 port cranks had shorter intake durations and benefitted more from modification. You shouldn't really need to cut an ET3 crank any more than it already is, unless Malossi has some spec specifically for the ET3. On the other hand, port matching will yield lots more power.
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Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:52:51 +0000
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yeah, after weighing it all, i decided against crank modification. my last malossified and portmatched smallie was plenty powerful. and with this bike i have electronic ignition and four gears...and going at the porting a little more aggressively than last time.
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aaron h. wrote: yeah, after weighing it all, i decided against crank modification. my last malossified and portmatched smallie was plenty powerful. and with this bike i have electronic ignition and four gears...and going at the porting a little more aggressively than last time. And be careful on the flyside, it gets a little thin in one spot there. Have fun! |
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Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:19:36 +0000
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Motorsport Scooters wrote: aaron h. wrote: yeah, after weighing it all, i decided against crank modification. my last malossified and portmatched smallie was plenty powerful. and with this bike i have electronic ignition and four gears...and going at the porting a little more aggressively than last time. And be careful on the flyside, it gets a little thin in one spot there. Have fun! |
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Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:43:43 +0000
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findo wrote: you can always open up the inlet port on the casings by the same amount.It gives the same duration as recomended but stops the imbalance of the crank and so cuts down vibration.Better for a commuter. edit: just thinking about it really quickly, i guess the first thought is: once you do it, you just bought the cow forever. you just commited every engine you build with that set of cases to +X duration. |
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I recommend you put a NOS system on it and turbocharge it too! And for truly mind blowing power, I recommend you swap out that engine for a 500 cc or larger. Of course you'll have to stretch the frame and spend A BILLION DOLLARS on R & D and custom development. But hey, it's your daily driver, and you simply CAN'T HAVE ENOUGH POWER!
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