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Wow, guys! My '61 Allstate body and some misc pieces came home from the sand blast last night. I finally got to look at it in the light and I'm very happy.
A few questions for those of you who have been so helpful, and those you may yet:
Despite the blast, there are areas that are not rust, but look like they may be weaknesses in the metal. One bubble I will absolutely have to fill. We were talking about filler a few weeks back.
Do you think this "discoloration" should be sealed with something, or will the primer work?
I also have two sets of headsets. Do the numbers stamped mean any thing? I can't get the one stamped 36 to fit either of the other pieces. They also gap as in the picture. is that ok?
When I get the ones together that fit, the Complete headlamp kit I bought from Scooter parts unlmtd doesn't fit. What am I doing wrong?
Now I'm starting to worry the that the bearing kit marked VBB, that they swore would work on the VNA1M Piston Port I have may not.
Someone talk me down from this ledge! I don't want to %$#& this thing up.
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Here is a gap i'm concerned about
Here's some of that "discoloration"
Here's some of that "discoloration"
Pits and discoloration
Pits and discoloration
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Stamped numbers on the headsets
If it helps, here are the numbers stamed into the headsets:
625, 36, 665, and either 889 or 688 upside down?
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the discoloration in the frame is pitting from rust damage.

A primer isn't going to cover that up... at least, you don't WANT a primer to cover that up. That should be skim coated with a fraction of an inch of filler (aka bondo ). I mean seriously ... a TINY amount. This isn't icing a cake... this is applying it and then sanding down, so the filler goes in the tiny holes.

THEN you prime.

THEN you sand again

THEN you paint.
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Oh..and it looks like you've got some decent sized rust holes there, sorta directly under the seat where the two parts of frame metal are spotwelded ( by where the rubber floor mat would normally be, but yours has rails there )

You're going to need to have someone weld up those holes...or braze them closed and grind them flat again.
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I knew you would have the solution, thanks.
You don't mind the bondo then for a small application like that?
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I knew you would have the solution, thanks.
You don't mind the bondo then for a small application like that?
Regardless of what people think of Bondo, it's necessary in many instances. Go to the most reputable body shop in the States, and I guarantee you that they'll have Bondo everywhere - it's absolutely necessary, but should only be used as Eric stated - as a filler!

It dries quickly, so mix it, apply it with finesse, and sand the shit out of it. You'll get the hang of it. Don't put too much on, because it just causes more sanding. Here's how I do it:

Sand

Bondo

Wet-sand

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Wet-sand

prime again

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bondo, in and of itself, isn't a bad thing. ( i prefer to call it body filler, as bondo has bad connotations )

Ideally, you don't want any of it on your bike ..but when it's rust pitted like that you have no choice but to use it ( or hack off the floors and weld on a new floorpan, which isn't worth it ).

You're only using it to fill in little pits ..not to fill over seams, or reshape things, or whatever. When people start using it like cake icing, it's inevitably going to crack when put under some bend or stress, and then you end up with a lot of fixing to do. You do NOT use it to fill in holes like the big ones you've got there, as it will inevitably expand and contract at a different rate as the metal and you will end up with little bubble looking things in your paint job.

It's best applied lightly and sanded heavily, until there's no more pits. Holes should be welded.
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Just an addition from me, to clarify between the Bondo brand and the generic use of the word bondo.

Good body shops don't use the Bondo brand. They do use filler and putty. There are much better products available nowadays than Bondo, but getting hold of them as a private individual can be a bit tougher.
The new products are more flexible and harder wearing then Bondo.

Evercoat do some decent flexible fillers and putties that are very popular on the Hot Rod scene.

Like the above posters say - use a light hand and plenty of sanding.

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All very good direction, I'll see if I can get some evercoat.
I was going to use my angle grinder to take down those rust holes, then braze them smooth. I have the bronze pencils, do I remember someone say not to use those? What then would be recomended?

Andrea, since you are here too, maybe you would know this one.
I foolishly bought the complete headlamp kit elsewhere, Crying or Very sad emoticon it was supposed to fit all large frames from the 60's.
Is my problem that mine is an allstate? Might the split headset just not accept that headlamp?

And do you think I screwed up getting the bearing kit for a VBB?

I really thought I was asking the right questions when I bought the stuff.
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The split headset uses the whole "vna headlight" setup ..which is a weird bulb and reflector set that aren't used on any other bike.

I actually have a set of this stuff that i don't know why i have.

If you want, i'll dig it out and sell it to you.

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well this new set from S.P.Unltd is doing me no good. It was $39 + shipping. should I try to send it back or would you want to work out a trade? Or, I could just buy from you. Let me know. I'm sure your stuff is in great condition too....
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Pretty sure i've got the intact glass rim, intact reflector, bulb, bulb holder ... the only thing i worry about is the condition of the chrome bezel. I'll go home and have a look and take pics if you want.

They aren't the easiest part to come by, FYI.

I don't need your part, but thanks.
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Yea, I'll wait for the pics. Thanks for doing this. I'll see how hard it'll be to return this set, or maybe try sell it on eBay.
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All very good direction, I'll see if I can get some evercoat.
I was going to use my angle grinder to take down those rust holes, then braze them smooth. I have the bronze pencils, do I remember someone say not to use those? What then would be recomended?

Andrea, since you are here too, maybe you would know this one.
I foolishly bought the complete headlamp kit elsewhere, Crying or Very sad emoticon it was supposed to fit all large frames from the 60's.
Is my problem that mine is an allstate? Might the split headset just not accept that headlamp?

And do you think I screwed up getting the bearing kit for a VBB?

I really thought I was asking the right questions when I bought the stuff.
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The bearings for VBB for both crank sides, rear hub, and selector box will fit your VNA.

The fitting you show in the headset top in the pic above is completely normal. The clip will hold it together. However, try the different combinations of headset pieces and get the best fit possible.

VNA headlight set ups are not, to my knowledge, being remade to exact specs. The ones sold kind of fit, but not very well. We had to get one in for a resto we did in house, and it took a lot of fettling to make it work and it was still less than satisfactory. If Eric will sell you his original, take it, but pay him a fair price They are very hard to find.

We don't stock the repro headlights because of the fitting problems. We will order one for people if they really insist, but with big warnings about how unsatisfied we generally are with them.

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Re: body filler
David's Allstate wrote:
All very good direction, I'll see if I can get some evercoat.
I was going to use my angle grinder to take down those rust holes, then braze them smooth. I have the bronze pencils, do I remember someone say not to use those? What then would be recomended?

Andrea, since you are here too, maybe you would know this one.
I foolishly bought the complete headlamp kit elsewhere, Crying or Very sad emoticon it was supposed to fit all large frames from the 60's.
Is my problem that mine is an allstate? Might the split headset just not accept that headlamp?

And do you think I screwed up getting the bearing kit for a VBB?

I really thought I was asking the right questions when I bought the stuff.
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Easy with the brazing. Your best bet is to go down the road Andrea states and get a high quality filler. There are some companies out there that make a filler with a strenghtening additive in it such as a metal or fiberglass. Only use that if there are dents/waves on the floor, otherwise the evercoat stuff will be sufficient. Make sure there are no pinholes in the metal, before applying or you will get bubbles in your paint down the road.
BTW get some epoxy primer on those parts asap. The darker areas you are seeing are oxidation(early stage of rust) The are attracting moisture as we speak(type). Make sure you use a prepsol/degreaser on the metal before applying anything. I would also go over those heavily pitted areas with a wire wheel, as well.
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Degrease even after the blast? wow, thanks for telling me, I would have not thought grease would still be there!
I did find evercoat too, and and etching primer for after the evercoat.
I'll be sanding and evercoating this weekend. It's pretty freaking cold and dry here, but i'm not taking any chances.
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You can spray on an acid etch that will keep it from rusting in the meanwhile until you're ready to prime it ( post body work ).

And yeah ...in the dryness of my winter basement, things can sit a long time without rusting. Just realize that the oils from your fingers get on there and cause trouble, so really try to minimize handling it before you shoot it with something.
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Degrease even after the blast? wow, thanks for telling me, I would have not thought grease would still be there!
I did find evercoat too, and and etching primer for after the evercoat.
I'll be sanding and evercoating this weekend. It's pretty freaking cold and dry here, but i'm not taking any chances.
-David
You never know if the sand in the cabinet is contaminated from the last blasting of parts. I learned my lesson a long time ago and always degrease blasted parts. You will need to run a piece of 180 sand paper over the entire area first, or the fibers from the cloth will get stuck in the micro pores created by the blasting and show up in your primer .
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If Eric will sell you his original, take it, but pay him a fair price They are very hard to find.
As promised.

Original bezel, reflector, glass, bulb holder and bulb.

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Oh..and it looks like you've got some decent sized rust holes there, sorta directly under the seat where the two parts of frame metal are spotwelded ( by where the rubber floor mat would normally be, but yours has rails there )
Eric, which size rails fit this model? And for once and for all, which Vespa Model should I use comparitively when shopping for parts, as Allstates are not prodominant in the catalogs. Some say the same year VNA1T or VNB1T, others have said I need to look at the older Vespas, 1958-59.
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They are really thin little rails. Not sure if they are the same size as the VBB ..but that's what i would try to put on there.

You're going to have to buy an extra rail and cut it to fit for the center 2 pieces. I don't think rail kits come with those because they did away with them and went to a centermat post '59.
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So could those other guys be right that though the VIN indicates 1961, the true Vespa year would be pre '59.
I bought a Rally center mat and it's too big, so i'll do the work you suggest.
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Rover Eric wrote:
the discoloration in the frame is pitting from rust damage.

A primer isn't going to cover that up... at least, you don't WANT a primer to cover that up. That should be skim coated with a fraction of an inch of filler (aka bondo ). I mean seriously ... a TINY amount. This isn't icing a cake... this is applying it and then sanding down, so the filler goes in the tiny holes.

THEN you prime.

THEN you sand again

THEN you paint.
Eric,
I skimmed over the rust damage, and it came out good. After sanding, should I skim over a second coat before priming?
I also ground out those rust bubbles only to reveal rusty metal underneath. Should I try to remove all of that before braizing, I don't know how deep it could go....
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anyone any thoughts?
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I dunno, man. I'd have someone local who can assess the damage let you know.

My guy who does bead blasting and welding for me takes care of that stuff. I just pay the bills
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no worries, I'll keep seeing what I can do.
BTW eric, did you get the payment?
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no worries, I'll keep seeing what I can do.
BTW eric, did you get the payment?
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Got it ... and i have your box all packed up and ready to go out.
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Just an addition from me, to clarify between the Bondo brand and the generic use of the word bondo.

Good body shops don't use the Bondo brand. They do use filler and putty. There are much better products available nowadays than Bondo, but getting hold of them as a private individual can be a bit tougher.
The new products are more flexible and harder wearing then Bondo.

Evercoat do some decent flexible fillers and putties that are very popular on the Hot Rod scene.

Like the above posters say - use a light hand and plenty of sanding.

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hey hey

"GLAZURIT" makes good fillers, not sure if they have it there though.

i've seen in "American Hotrod", that they braze on lead to seal and fill-in the seams on body panels too. think they call it "Frenching".
that should work on pittings as well. you don't want to grind and remove more sheet metal than you have to
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Andrea wrote:
If Eric will sell you his original, take it, but pay him a fair price They are very hard to find.
As promised.

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I don't think so...
Its not fit for 61 Allstate/VNA/VNB1-2, with have smaller diameter
I guess that's for VBB, VNB3-6 or GS
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I don't think so...
Its not fit for 61 Allstate/VNA/VNB1-2, with have smaller diameter
I guess that's for VBB, VNB3-6 or GS
1) This thread is old

2) I already sold the parts to him

3) They are the EXACT parts for his bike. They literally came off the same exact model bike he had, that i also owned...that's why i had them in the first place.

4) It's a headlight that's specific to the split-headset VNA and very early VNB from '58-'61. It won't fit any other bike. It might be US-specific, and that's why you don't recognize it... i'm not sure.
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I don't think so...
Its not fit for 61 Allstate/VNA/VNB1-2, with have smaller diameter
I guess that's for VBB, VNB3-6 or GS
1) This thread is old

2) I already sold the parts to him

3) They are the EXACT parts for his bike. They literally came off the same exact model bike he had, that i also owned...that's why i had them in the first place.

4) It's a headlight that's specific to the split-headset VNA and very early VNB from '58-'61. It won't fit any other bike. It might be US-specific, and that's why you don't recognize it... i'm not sure.
no offense eric
I just don't know US spec... thanks for sharing
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