Time to take the transmission cover off and clean the clutch. I'm surprised it happened so soon. Only happens when its hot though, doing a lot of city work.
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My 300 is making that Angry Sea Lion noise from its clutch at only 3000km. Not very good really. Grrr...
Time to take the transmission cover off and clean the clutch. I'm surprised it happened so soon. Only happens when its hot though, doing a lot of city work. ⚠️ Last edited by DougL on Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:42:45 +0000; edited 1 time
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he looks more tired than angry, here we go, one sea lion....
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Awww bless. I'm sure most people have never experienced THAT noise. I remember thinking, 'gosh what is that dreadful racket?' only to realise a few minutes later, that it was me.
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A baby seal walks into a club.
....bada bing. Have you tried blowing compressed air in through the holes where the chrome Vespa cover goes? Might save you pulling the tranny cover. |
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A penguin walks into a pub and shuffles up to the bar, looks at the barman and says " 'scuse me mate but has my brother been in here today"? The barman looks at the penguin and says " dont know mate, what's he look like".
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one of the funniest things i've ever seen was a short clip of Jack Lemmon just looking at a penguin .... it's gotta be somewhere on youtube .... let the procrastination begin ....
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The two easiest fixes are 1) Getting up to speed for a while 60 to 75 mph, that usually clears most of the dust out of the clutch drum. 2) remove the chrome Vespa cover on the transmission cover and blow compressed air into all the holes. I usually have the engine running with the scooter on the center stand and the rear wheel spinning to help clear out the dust but that probably isn't real necessary. If you do have the wheel spinning be sure no to push the nozzle into the holes and hit the clutch!!! Taking the transmission cover off and blowing everything clean with compressed air is good but a lot of work. #1 is by far the easiest and most fun and usually quite effective.
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That's only a temporary fix though - so I have always just <shrugged> and accepted that slow hot filtering will induce it. Narrow London streets don't help - I've not had the problem anywhere else.
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I think a temporary fix is better than no fix at all. Just clearing the dust out of the clutch makes the scooter much smoother and nicer to drive. One of the nice things about a modern Vespa is how smooth they are. My clutch was grabbing quite a bit from driving in stop and go traffic in downtown San Francisco, just getting onto the freeway for 5 or 10 miles cleared it right up. It will be back but it is pretty easy to clear it out on the freeways around here. I guess it would be easy to put up with also, I just wanted to pass on an easy remedy even if it may be only temporary. I also assume less dust may mean less wear on the drive belt.
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jimc wrote: dougl65 wrote: marc wrote: Have you tried blowing compressed air in through the holes where the chrome Vespa cover goes? Might save you pulling the tranny cover. And it's "Strangled Sea Lion", tm X9ownersclub.co.uk. I shall remember in future! |
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Nyle told me about this fix and it seems to work, spray brake cleaner in there until nothing but clear brake cleaner runs out the bottom. I spray it in the belt exhaust area as well. Works for me the couple times Ive had that mad seal sound. I always have that sound after new belts.
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