Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:34 am

El Macho
KTM Super Duke 1290, Vespa GTS 300
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El Macho
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:34 am linkquote
My 300 is making that Angry Sea Lion noise from its clutch at only 3000km. Not very good really. Grrr...

Time to take the transmission cover off and clean the clutch. I'm surprised it happened so soon. Only happens when its hot though, doing a lot of city work.

Last edited by DougL on Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:42 am; edited 1 time in total
Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:08 am

Gobshite Shiva
Kymco Downtown 300i the 'Dolphin Noise'
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Location: London UK
 
Gobshite Shiva
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:08 am linkquote
he looks more tired than angry, here we go, one sea lion....


warning! may make a sound like a dirty clutch if provoked

Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:21 am

El Macho
KTM Super Duke 1290, Vespa GTS 300
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El Macho
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:21 am linkquote
Awww bless. I'm sure most people have never experienced THAT noise. I remember thinking, 'gosh what is that dreadful racket?' only to realise a few minutes later, that it was me.
Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:31 am

Contributor
2007 LX 150 (memories)
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:31 am linkquote
How to deal with a bad seal.



Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:34 am

Moderator
2010 Dragon Red GTS 300 Super, 2018 Grigio Titanio Piaggio Liberty S 150
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Posts: 16293
Location: Toronto, Canada, Fort Lauderdale, Florida
 
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:34 am linkquote
Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:39 am

El Macho
KTM Super Duke 1290, Vespa GTS 300
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El Macho
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:39 am linkquote
That's exactly the sort of noise I meant....
Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:05 pm

Ossessionato
01 ET2 - 01 ET4 -- 05 GT200L / 05 PX150 / 1986? Honda CH150 Deluxe.
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Ossessionato
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:05 pm linkquote
Quote:
How to deal with a bad seal.
A penguin driving through Arizona on a hot summer′s day when he realises his car is leaking oil. So he finds a service station and asks the mechanic to check his car over. He′s asked to leave it an hour and call back. Meanwhile the Penguin went for a walk and had a large ice cream. His short little arms ensure the ice cream is all over his face. Returning to the Garage ice cream all over his face, he asks what was wrong with the car. The mechanic replied, looks like you′ve blown a seal. No, no says the penguin it′s just ice cream.

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Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:15 pm

El Macho
KTM Super Duke 1290, Vespa GTS 300
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El Macho
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:15 pm linkquote
Ifixjets wrote:
Quote:
How to deal with a bad seal.
A penguin driving through Arizona on a hot summer′s day when he realises his car is leaking oil. So he finds a service station and asks the mechanic to check his car over. He′s asked to leave it an hour and call back. Meanwhile the Penguin went for a walk and had a large ice cream. His short little arms ensure the ice cream is all over his face. Returning to the Garage ice cream all over his face, he asks what was wring with the car. The mechanic replied, looks like you′ve blown a seal. No, no says the penguin it′s just ice cream.
Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:24 pm

Molto Verboso
2007 Piaggio BV 250
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Posts: 1871
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
 
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:24 pm linkquote
NightWing wrote:
How to deal with a bad seal.
After which you invite some of the neighbors over for lunch.
Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:04 pm

Molto Verboso
06 GTS250. 00 Yamaha Vino airsal 70cc. 01 ET4 (wrecked). 67 Lambretta Vega125. 48 Beam Doodlebug Super. 1915 Board Track replica 80cc
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Molto Verboso
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:04 pm linkquote
A baby seal walks into a club.


....bada bing.


Have you tried blowing compressed air in through the holes where the chrome Vespa cover goes?

Might save you pulling the tranny cover.
Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:37 pm

El Macho
KTM Super Duke 1290, Vespa GTS 300
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El Macho
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:37 pm linkquote
marc wrote:
Have you tried blowing compressed air in through the holes where the chrome Vespa cover goes?

Might save you pulling the tranny cover.
Not yet, but I think the blowing out of the cover is perhaps a temporary fix.
Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:39 pm

Gobshite Shiva
Kymco Downtown 300i the 'Dolphin Noise'
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Location: London UK
 
Gobshite Shiva
Kymco Downtown 300i the 'Dolphin Noise'
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:39 pm linkquote
NightWing wrote:
How to deal with a bad seal.
ewww. 'going clubbing' has a rather sinister meaning in some parts of the world
Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:44 pm

Molto Verboso
No Scooter no more...
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Molto Verboso
No Scooter no more...
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:44 pm linkquote
A penguin walks into a pub and shuffles up to the bar, looks at the barman and says " 'scuse me mate but has my brother been in here today"? The barman looks at the penguin and says " dont know mate, what's he look like".

I thank you.






















I'll get my coat
Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:08 pm

Size of a Chaffinch
PX 125 "The Bruise" (SOLD)
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Posts: 5548
Location: London
 
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:08 pm linkquote


Penguins are comedy gold.
Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:16 pm

Gobshite Shiva
Kymco Downtown 300i the 'Dolphin Noise'
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Location: London UK
 
Gobshite Shiva
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:16 pm linkquote
one of the funniest things i've ever seen was a short clip of Jack Lemmon just looking at a penguin .... it's gotta be somewhere on youtube .... let the procrastination begin ....
Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:45 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
63 GS160 MK1 / GT60 / Sean Wotherspoon
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:45 pm linkquote
christos x wrote:
A penguin walks into a pub and shuffles up to the bar, looks at the barman and says " 'scuse me mate but has my brother been in here today"? The barman looks at the penguin and says " dont know mate, what's he look like".

I thank you.






















I'll get my coat
Ask's for applause and grabs for the coat just in case. Silence in the room.

Hilarious.............

SDG
Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:05 pm

Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
 
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:05 pm linkquote
dougl65 wrote:
marc wrote:
Have you tried blowing compressed air in through the holes where the chrome Vespa cover goes?

Might save you pulling the tranny cover.
Not yet, but I think the blowing out of the cover is perhaps a temporary fix.
All the fixes for this are temporary fixes. Live with it.

And it's "Strangled Sea Lion", tm X9ownersclub.co.uk.
Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:22 pm

Addicted
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:22 pm linkquote
The two easiest fixes are 1) Getting up to speed for a while 60 to 75 mph, that usually clears most of the dust out of the clutch drum. 2) remove the chrome Vespa cover on the transmission cover and blow compressed air into all the holes. I usually have the engine running with the scooter on the center stand and the rear wheel spinning to help clear out the dust but that probably isn't real necessary. If you do have the wheel spinning be sure no to push the nozzle into the holes and hit the clutch!!! Taking the transmission cover off and blowing everything clean with compressed air is good but a lot of work. #1 is by far the easiest and most fun and usually quite effective.
Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:34 pm

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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:34 pm linkquote
That's only a temporary fix though - so I have always just <shrugged> and accepted that slow hot filtering will induce it. Narrow London streets don't help - I've not had the problem anywhere else.
Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:52 pm

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29,000 miles on my atlantic pastel green 2007 GTS 250
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:52 pm linkquote
Guy sees a penguin walking on the sidewalk. Takes the animal by his hand and walks him to the police station to ask for advice what to do with him. Police officer suggests to take the penguin to the zoo. Guy agrees and leaves.

Next day, that police officer is on patrol and sees that same guy, hand-in-hand with the penguin, walking. Pulls over next to him and asks him why he didn't take the animal to the zoo. Guy responds that he did, and the penguin enjoyed it. Today they were going to the movies.
Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:58 pm

Beer Fairy
GTS-"Cannonball Bettie" Member Iron Butt Association
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Location: Seacoast New Hampshire USA
 
Beer Fairy
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:58 pm linkquote
Dreamed I was an eskimo... F.Z.

Where did I put that "lead filled snowshoe"???? 8)
Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:21 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2020 Honda NC750DCT ABS
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:21 pm linkquote
mogeewogee wrote:
Dreamed I was an eskimo... F.Z.

Where did I put that "lead filled snowshoe"???? 8)
It was a hundred degrees below zero.

And my mama cried, and my mama cried....
Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:28 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:28 pm linkquote
BTW:


Beware Angry Sea Lions!

Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:54 pm

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Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:54 pm linkquote
I think a temporary fix is better than no fix at all. Just clearing the dust out of the clutch makes the scooter much smoother and nicer to drive. One of the nice things about a modern Vespa is how smooth they are. My clutch was grabbing quite a bit from driving in stop and go traffic in downtown San Francisco, just getting onto the freeway for 5 or 10 miles cleared it right up. It will be back but it is pretty easy to clear it out on the freeways around here. I guess it would be easy to put up with also, I just wanted to pass on an easy remedy even if it may be only temporary. I also assume less dust may mean less wear on the drive belt.
Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:41 pm

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Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:41 pm linkquote
California Sea Lions are much friendier. They even dance with you (me):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkbPoBAQJkc
Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:17 am

El Macho
KTM Super Duke 1290, Vespa GTS 300
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Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:17 am linkquote
jimc wrote:
dougl65 wrote:
marc wrote:
Have you tried blowing compressed air in through the holes where the chrome Vespa cover goes?

Might save you pulling the tranny cover.
Not yet, but I think the blowing out of the cover is perhaps a temporary fix.
All the fixes for this are temporary fixes. Live with it.

And it's "Strangled Sea Lion", tm X9ownersclub.co.uk.
Cheers jim

I shall remember in future!
Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:48 am

WHOoligan
1985 PX200E Arcobaleno : 2010/14 GTS300 S: RIP GTS250 @ 40K
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Location: Los Angeles Kings, Stanley Cup Champions X2
 
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Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:48 am linkquote
Ifixjets wrote:
Quote:
How to deal with a bad seal.
A penguin driving through Arizona on a hot summer′s day when he realises his car is leaking oil. So he finds a service station and asks the mechanic to check his car over. He′s asked to leave it an hour and call back. Meanwhile the Penguin went for a walk and had a large ice cream. His short little arms ensure the ice cream is all over his face. Returning to the Garage ice cream all over his face, he asks what was wrong with the car. The mechanic replied, looks like you′ve blown a seal. No, no says the penguin it′s just ice cream.
Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:54 am

WHOoligan
1985 PX200E Arcobaleno : 2010/14 GTS300 S: RIP GTS250 @ 40K
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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WHOoligan
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Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:54 am linkquote
Nyle told me about this fix and it seems to work, spray brake cleaner in there until nothing but clear brake cleaner runs out the bottom. I spray it in the belt exhaust area as well. Works for me the couple times Ive had that mad seal sound. I always have that sound after new belts.

Good luck

Manny
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