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YAY!!!!! My baby's first lose tooth - upon arriving home after a longish shopping expedition, I noticed there was a HOLE!!!! in my cowl, freaked, bowed low to inspect, and then noticed the reflector was hanging vertically rather than horizontally hanging on for dear life.

Should I/how would I snap off this irritating bit of cheap jewelry tarting up my 'merican Vespa? It's hanging on by the left plastic thingy shot thru the cowl, that's it.............

Oh, I have a euro style front fender w/ no reflectors or holes (my baby tryed to eat the side of a house the first day I had her), so i'm kinda thinking she should run nekked thru the world, NO reflectors..................
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Rip them off!
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then stomp on it w/ your Doc Martins
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Mine had to come off when I added the chrome set crash bars. Now I'm looking for little buttons to plug the holes.
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Pugging the holes
I just took my reflectors off and found something that fit the holes perfectly and looks really good.

They were called V-Pins (I think) and I got them at Orchard Supply Hardware (aka OSH) for 29 cents apiece. I think they are made of nylon, or some rally tough plastic.

They come in several sizes, so if you are interested, the next time I'm there I'll check out which size I used and will let you know.

I painted the heads to match the scooter. I was doing a bigger painting project at the time and just shot them at the same time with primer, color base coat and clear. I'm totally sure that a little dab of touchup paint would work just as well, however.
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Thanks Michael. I'll take the broken off stud to get the correct one.
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I hate to rain on your parade, but: the reflectors might not be pretty however they are installed for a reason. If you are going to do any driving from dusk to dawn I would not advise removing them. I would much rather be visible and arrive safely with ugly reflectors than hit and dead without them.
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That is why you ride with a reflective vest or Jacket as it is up higher and much more visible then those little reflectors. The reflectors are only on scooter sold in the US.
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I ride with a "helmet halo" as well. I really think that I want every ounce of visibility. I guess it is a personal decision.

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Curt

I ride with a "helmet halo" as well. I really think that I want every ounce of visibility. I guess it is a personal decision.

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The more visibility the better, no argument there at all. I just don't see those little side reflectors doing all that much but yes they do ad some to visibility at night.
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Remove those reflectors and go for a clean naked look or as I prefer to call it, the "oolala" treatment.

But whatever you do, do not remove the warning stickers! Because it is incredibly unsafe to operate a vehicle without those warning stickers.

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It's curious that this forum will preach: visibility! visibility! visibility! visibility! until it comes to these reflectors. I know they're not that cute.... My scoot is in the back of my garage and when I pull in at night with my car I see the reflective decals that I attached and these reflectors quite well.

If you're going to remove them, consider something else reflective in their place. Even a bit of chrome will be much more visible than the side of your scooter.
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I am trying to get all the chrome installed on my scoot, but my dealer's not being very cooperative.............. Livid emoticon
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What do you need help with?
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Okay, maybe I am obsessive, but I thought of this in the middle of the night:

If you indeed take off the standard safety equipment, (the reflectors), and you get into an accident, hopefully a minor accident, wouldn't your insurance company be within their rights to refuse to cover you as you have modified the scooter illegally?
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Okay, maybe I am obsessive, but I thought of this in the middle of the night:

If you indeed take off the standard safety equipment, (the reflectors), and you get into an accident, hopefully a minor accident, wouldn't your insurance company be within their rights to refuse to cover you as you have modified the scooter illegally?
DOOOhhh what a buzz kill.
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LOL those cheap plastic afterthoughts would probably be the first thing to break and fly off in an accident anyway I think DR put some reflective tape where his were. At least that would not mess with the sexy lines of the scooter.
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Okay, maybe I am obsessive, but I thought of this in the middle of the night:

If you indeed take off the standard safety equipment, (the reflectors), and you get into an accident, hopefully a minor accident, wouldn't your insurance company be within their rights to refuse to cover you as you have modified the scooter illegally?
I wouldn't worry. If you take off the reflectors and replace them with nothing - maybe, but will likely depend on your policy. If you replace it with other reflective material, such as some of the reflective striping and checkerboard patterns others have, then you may be making an improvement. If in doubt, read your policy or talk to your insurance representative. If you are concerned, better to know than to guess.

Edited: I am planning on taking mine off - so I am not concerned.[size=9]
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Okay, maybe I am obsessive, but I thought of this in the middle of the night:

If you indeed take off the standard safety equipment, (the reflectors), and you get into an accident, hopefully a minor accident, wouldn't your insurance company be within their rights to refuse to cover you as you have modified the scooter illegally?
As you see from reading on this site, these cheap plastic things fall off on their own. Mine were off in my accident and the reflector inspector never came by to see if they should pay the claim or not.

When they do fall off, do you think Piaggio USA would actually have them in stock for you to buy replacements.?
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"The reflector inspector"!! Good one Curt!

Take them off and leave them on the glovebox....there's not room for much ELSE in there..
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I dunno guys, this logic can be applied to many other safety features on the scooter. for example, those dang mirrors look so dorky, .... take them off too!



(I am playing devil's advocate, but the point is, think before you modify the scooter.)
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What, you have mirrors on your scooter? Mirrors are goverened by state law. Some states require 1 others require 2.
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Re: Pugging the holes
mperry99 wrote:
They were called V-Pins (I think) and I got them at Orchard Supply Hardware (aka OSH) for 29 cents apiece. I think they are made of nylon, or some rally tough plastic.

They come in several sizes, so if you are interested, the next time I'm there I'll check out which size I used and will let you know.

Hmm, what is Orchard Supply Hardware - and I wonder what the Canadian equivalent is ?
Is that a hardware store and what are the real purpose for these V pin plugs ?

This is clearly a low priority post for some - but those holes bug the hell out of me ....... holes drilled in something so beautiful, how could it ever happen (scooter injustice)

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I thought Max at MotorSport has plugs for these holes.
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I thought Max at MotorSport has plugs for these holes.
Yup ... they are on the LX page. Pick up those and some touch up paint and you are in the bizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

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