mp3 500 rear tire size
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Fri May 29, 2009 12:58 pm quote
I know there's a thread here somewhere that talks about this, and I tried unsuccessfully to find it. So kindly indulge my ineptitude and don't chide me for laziness...

What's the largest tire that will fit on a 500?

Thanks.
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Fri May 29, 2009 1:33 pm quote
160/60/14
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Fri May 29, 2009 2:30 pm quote
stock is 140/70
I have yet to see a good pic of the said 160/60 installed I am concerned with the sides being too close to the shocks.
I ordered a diablo in the 150/70 and will have it by Mon and Tues or Wed should have it mounted on the rim, but I won't be able to show you pics of it on the scoot until the following week when I get home and reinstall the wheel assy.
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MP3 500
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Fri May 29, 2009 3:28 pm quote
go big or go home
on my mp3 500 i changed the back tire to the biggest on that would fit. i put on the diablo 160....i cant tell you how much better the ride is and the looks is amazing. what i would also reccomend is cutt the license holder and re-drill the license into the top portion. (however my next step is to take off the entire rear license portion via cutting off the steel bar holders on the side and remounting the license under the seat.)

I tried taking a picture but it was with my phone in the dark...you cant really appreciate just how much better it looks but i attached it anyways.

thus all in all = trust me go with the biggest tire you can. the only negative it that there is no room side to side between the tire and the shocks but who cares, i actually think that adds to the look and your back tire shouldnt be moving side to side anyways!





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Fri May 29, 2009 3:49 pm quote
Re: go big or go home
akpharmd wrote:
on my mp3 500 i changed the back tire to the biggest on that would fit. i put on the diablo 160....i cant tell you how much better the ride is and the looks is amazing. what i would also reccomend is cutt the license holder and re-drill the license into the top portion. (however my next step is to take off the entire rear license portion via cutting off the steel bar holders on the side and remounting the license under the seat.)

I tried taking a picture but it was with my phone in the dark...you cant really appreciate just how much better it looks but i attached it anyways.

thus all in all = trust me go with the biggest tire you can. the only negative it that there is no room side to side between the tire and the shocks but who cares, i actually think that adds to the look and your back tire shouldnt be moving side to side anyways!
could you retake the pics and repost please, they are to dark to see anything at all. just roll the scoot outside and use the daylight and retake. Thanks
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Fri May 29, 2009 8:11 pm quote
Now that's close!
JM from Lisbon posted this photo of (I believe) a Michelin Pilot Sport SC Radial 160/60H-14 tire:

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Sat May 30, 2009 8:42 am quote
i will re-take the pics when i finish putting the final touches to license holder....however the picture above looks just like my tire. it is also that close to the springs but never had a problem. finally, i originally wanted the tire for cosmetic purposes but still cant believe just how much of a driving difference it made; particularly on the freeway. the bike feels much more stable / solid (not like it didnt before but now little defects or unstraight grooves in the road are no longer noticed).

summary of my mods for those that are interested:
performance: back tire 160 diablo, leo vince exhaust, j costa variator
cosmetic: removed stock decals, placed custom decals on tail portion of the bike, givi back rest (with stock mp3 logo glued on), in process of removing license holder and remounting license and license light (however license holder currently just shortened), windscreen fabbri (i prefer this windscreen after everything considerred as it provides sufficient protection and i think it looks the best), repainted (black) most silver screws / parts including the rims and engine basically almost everywhere except where you put your feet, painted the engine and exhaust pipe with heat resistent paint (everything but muffler) - black color to match overall bike theme, changed handlebar tips from stock black ones to chrome (ps this is an easy thing to do screw right on = i hightly recc this mod, the dealer will probably give them to you for free), lastly added gps system with holder on the handlebars.

I think that it is....if i did anything else i would do the following:

cosmetic: add foot pegs (sighly under knee height above silver foot rest area) to help with long trips and i also it will look pretty cool also...but im still undecided about this...
performance mod: wait to see what the next big thing is but ill do that down the line as the bike really gets up. You gotta remember that changing the exhaust and removing the license holder significantly decreases the weight of the bike; that in addition to the j costa makes a big difference to the 500

Cheers and enjoy riding your MP3s!!!!

I added two pics that are better quality than other but are before i did the repainting and decal cosmetic work....i like the group one cuz it shows the mp3 can hand with anyone!



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Sat May 30, 2009 10:41 am quote
more
More pictures please, im very interested if this suits the mp3 400LT
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Sat May 30, 2009 5:18 pm quote
In Diablo We Trust
akpharmd wrote:
...finally, i originally wanted the tire for cosmetic purposes but still cant believe just how much of a driving difference it made; particularly on the freeway. the bike feels much more stable / solid (not like it didnt before but now little defects or unstraight grooves in the road are no longer noticed).
Yes! Yes! Yes! Like you, I am a firm believer of the Diablo and its awesomeness, speaking from a prior experience. You've spelled out exactly what I, and surely many here, wanted to hear from such upgrade. Good for you and thank you for sharing.
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Sat May 30, 2009 10:50 pm quote
no problem, glad to share after all most of the info i learned about customizing my 500 was from this forum. thus its only right to recipricate.

one thing i HIGHLY reccomend when getting the bigger back tire (160) = alter the license plate holder! This is a must. If your gonna put that monster back tire on you might as well show it off, plus altering the license holder is very easy. all you need to do is take off the license plate, redrill it into the very top of the holder, then saw / cutt off anything under the bottom portion of the license plate! I added an extra touch and painted a black border around the license plate. I used piaggio touch up paint which i found to work very well. also if your gonna paint the border dont forget to use tape when painting each side to help keep the lines straight. finally when your all done its gonna have a traditional sport bike apperance from the back end...so if thats the look you like then whatcha waiting for?
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Sun May 31, 2009 6:24 am quote
try not to pick at me on this question
Did the tire rub the shocks any when the tire was flat?

I'm just wondering if there would be any added issues if the tire suddenly went flat.

Only asking because I like the looks of the tire and would
love to get one for my 400.


Off the subject ....does anyone know the napa number for the front end bearings? I've been doing some searches but can't seem to find the right combination without combing through a 100 topics.
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Sun May 31, 2009 8:22 am quote
flat tire
yes i would rub if you had a flat tire but the way i look at it is: you should be driving with a flat tire anyways....all in all i highly reccomend changing the tire.

i dont remember what the tail end of the 400 looks like but even if you arent gonna make the cosmetic changes associated with the license holder i still recc changing the tire if not only for the the improved ride quality.

keep cruisin' 3 wheel style!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sun May 31, 2009 8:26 am quote
@akpharmd
could you post a picture in bright daylight?
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Sun May 31, 2009 8:33 am quote
Re: try not to pick at me on this question
Jayknife wrote:
Off the subject ....does anyone know the napa number for the front end bearings? I've been doing some searches but can't seem to find the right combination without combing through a 100 topics.
Athens is worth a shot.
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Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:32 pm quote
pics
Per your request here are the pics of my bike.


i know i know the tire is really close to the rim but doesnt cause any problems!!! go for it!


see....i told you that it looks better with a shorter license holder!


if your gonna do this make sure you use heat resistant paint


the gps holder is great, adjustable and secure


i blackened most of it but decided to leave center chrome...i may darken it later but am still not 100% either way, so left it the same


notice most of the small silver parts have been repainted


this is the stock logo just replaced on the seat, i think it looks beter this way but to each his own

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Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:52 pm quote


I am in love!

Thanks for the photos, akpharmd! Love your MP3 make-over.
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:20 am quote
YEAH BUDDY!!!
Holy *^&( thats supercool! when my tire runs out of grip ill buy this one, if it fits on a 400 LT mp3.

by then i will post the pics aswell.

Thanks
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:03 am quote
i dont wont nag but could you post a closer picture that we could see how close is the right shock to the tyre.
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:57 am quote
you can see it a bit in the beginning of the topic
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:24 pm quote
Just a request
sbtgn1 wrote:
i dont wont nag but could you post a closer picture that we could see how close is the right shock to the tyre.


This photo from JM is nice; but akpharmd, please make sure you have someone-else take a nice large close-up photo from the rear with you sitting on the MP3 (loaded down on the shocks, w/o the center stand, of course), OK? Thanks!
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:15 pm quote
Ok that does it. I am going to order a Diablo 160/60-14 for the rear of my 400. I run Diablo's on my 250 and they are great. Thanks for the Pics.

R.B.
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Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:48 am quote
rene bob
on a 400? sounds like a good idea, i have my new 400 delivered next monday!

when you install the new tyre can you make some pics aswell? im very curious how it looks so i can make my first 5000 miles in a hurry to change the tyre
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Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:09 am quote
i put a 150 gold standard on mine...love it...wasn't ready to jump from 140 to 160 (wasn't sure how well it would fit)

might go with a 160 diablo next time to see how they compare...but that will be a year from now (i put 5 to 6 thousand on my fuoco a year, about 3000 on my smaller scooter and a thousand or so on my bicycle)

g
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Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:16 am quote
Also went with the 150 Gold Standard
I am especially pleased with it's direction tracking stability. road grooves, slow or fast, just don't phase the tire. And the aggressive tread gives me more comfort in the rain. Next time, perhaps the 160, but this is an awesome tire...
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Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:19 am quote
thegelding wrote:
i put a 150 gold standard on mine...love it...wasn't ready to jump from 140 to 160 (wasn't sure how well it would fit)

might go with a 160 diablo next time to see how they compare...but that will be a year from now (i put 5 to 6 thousand on my fuoco a year, about 3000 on my smaller scooter and a thousand or so on my bicycle)

g
This is the tire I'm interested in. How does it compare with the MGS 140 ? thanks!
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Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:33 am quote
fits easily, very nice ride, grips well (probably not as well as the diablo though)...

if you need a new rear, the 150 GS is highly recommended by me...not that the 140 was bad at all, but the 150 seems a natural fit for this bike

g
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Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:58 am quote
thegelding wrote:
fits easily, very nice ride, grips well (probably not as well as the diablo though)...

if you need a new rear, the 150 GS is highly recommended by me...not that the 140 was bad at all, but the 150 seems a natural fit for this bike

g
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Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:41 pm quote
reno bob wrote:
Ok that does it. I am going to order a Diablo 160/60-14 for the rear of my 400. I run Diablo's on my 250 and they are great. Thanks for the Pics.

R.B.
I have 160/60-14 on my 400 no problems...
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Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:50 pm quote
Medium size, close-up of the rear end
antdaddy wrote:
I have 160/60-14 on my 400 no problems...
Photo request!
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Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:21 am quote
antdaddy wrote:
reno bob wrote:
Ok that does it. I am going to order a Diablo 160/60-14 for the rear of my 400. I run Diablo's on my 250 and they are great. Thanks for the Pics.

R.B.
I have 160/60-14 on my 400 no problems...
yes please~!

can you post a pic of the 400 with the 160?

thanks
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Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:30 pm quote


antdaddy

I will pick it up tomorrow am. What did you pay for yours? My dealer charged $108 thats with a discount. I really like to support my local dealer when I can.

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Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:21 pm quote
NEW Diablo 150/70-14 the side clearances are right side 3/8" left side 1/4"

sorry I didn't have pics of the tire change itself as I left my camera at home and did this at my brothers house when visiting my mom this past week. We did it on a No-Mar tire changer and it took maybe 10 min. When I went to use his marc-parnes balancer I would have needed a special adapter to fit the hole pattern to mount the rim on so we used a car bublle balancer and it worked great.
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Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:24 pm quote
Another Diablo on the road
old as dirt wrote:
NEW Diablo 150/70-14 the side clearances are right side 3/8" left side 1/4"
Nice shots, OAD! Get a chance, take another photo with the rear suspension loaded down, then take the measurements (and compare differences). Thanks!
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Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:57 pm quote
i have my shocks on the 2nd hardest setting and I did bounce the rear end while looking at the clearance and DID NOT see any issues. After work tommorrow I will get a chance to do a test ride and let ya'll know what it feels like. I'll probably start high on te tire press 35 and work my way down to see what I like.
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Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:24 pm quote
Somehow, I have a feeling it's gonna be fine
Anyway, this (below) is what you don't want (to see) when super-sizing your rear tire. On the MP3, with the two rear springs leaning into each other like that, and the huge tire bouncing up-and-down... Let's hope your findings turn out to be negative, OAD.

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Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:27 pm quote
I don't think on the 150/70 I will have a problem thats why I went that route but the 160/60 wow that'll be REAL tight
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Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:41 pm quote
Getting close, very close
old as dirt wrote:
I don't think on the 150/70 I will have a problem thats why I went that route but the 160/60 wow that'll be REAL tight
Dang, that's right! You went with the 150/70. Please give us a report anyway.

Hey, would akpharmd, the guy with the 160/60 Diablo please update us with a progress report? Interested to know if there's any tire-rubbing on springs?

Thanks, guys!
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Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:09 pm quote
stock that came on my bike was a 140/70 GTS 24 Pirelli. that another reason I went with the diablo is to keep like tires front and rear. just wish they made a 13" for the front in the diablo's
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Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:45 pm quote
antdaddy
@antdaddy
you have the pics of the mp3 400 with the 160 tire?
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Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:39 pm quote


I sure hope I picked the right tire. I measured the 160 today and I think it will fit. I won't put the tire on for a couple of weeks yet. I hope it fits When I do I will take pictures and post.

R.B.
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