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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:00:21 +0000 quote

David's Allstate wrote:

VLBJS1 wrote:

That is very cool..def something you don't get to see everyday. Didn't the Allstate go for like 300 or 400 bucks at the time? I'm wondering what the cost was for Piaggio to make these things..

Here is the original ad for the scoot: $319.95 off the showroom floor!

http://www.scooterlounge.com/Vespa/Sears/Sears.shtml

...and here is price list from 1976-1977 from Mr.Jorgen, he is from Denmark and worked at Danmotor Indonesia since 1972-1976
Sprint150 only 446.250 IDR... fyi $1= ± 10.000 IDR
haaaa! only $45

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2434600500_d65a900b1f_b.jpg

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:05:02 +0000 quote

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You're in atlanta... i would call Gene @ Scooters Originali and ask him if he's got any really good saddle seat repops with the Aquila badge on the back of them, that look the real deal. If he doesn't have one, maybe motorsport does.

I just started looking into the seat covers. Is this the sort of thing that you would suggest. :
http://www.scooterwest.com/item_detail/Vintage-Vespa-Seat-Cover-60s-Saddle/579/

Rover Eric Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:17:28 +0000 details Moderator 1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150 Joined: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:05:05 +0000 Posts: 6980 Location: Detroit, Michigan
Rover Eric Moderator 1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150 Joined: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:05:05 +0000 Posts: 6980 Location: Detroit, Michigan	Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:17:28 +0000 quote Yeah..that's a pretty good looking cover. If it doesn't have the Aquila badge on the back, i'd detach yours from your crappy cover and rivet it on the back of this new one. ( because i'm anal like that )

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:24:02 +0000 quote

Rover Eric wrote:

If it doesn't have the Aquila badge on the back, i'd detach yours from your crappy cover and rivet it on the back of this new one. ( because i'm anal like that )

Mine doesn't have an Aquila badge on the back, in fact, looking at your pictures, the back of my seat doesn't match yours. Yours has a sort of back lip that goes around the metal bar at the back of the seat. Mine does not, so I'm not gonna worry too much about the badge

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:28:50 +0000 quote

Well, it SHOULD.

Have a look at the pic. Here's your bike right here ... your seat ( basically ANY saddle seat...even on lambrettas ) had that lip on the back to cover the rear of the saddle.

http://www.vespaclub.com/tecnica/vespa-56-64/1960-125-high.jpg

What has happened is that back lip is one of the first things to come off. It separates and people just throw it away.

If it were me, i'd be looking for a new cover that had that same stitching pattern as the one on the picture... but i accept that people aren't half as nerdy as i.

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:37:27 +0000 quote

Rover Eric wrote:

What has happened is that back lip is one of the first things to come off. It separates and people just throw it away.

Ahh, that certainly makes sense.

You have been a wealth of advise, and I appreciate being steered away from the Asian knock-off stuff, or else I would've ended up with a crappy entire new seat rather than just getting the proper cover. However, I'm not gonna worry too much over the stitching.

Incidentally, that pic is amazing, and I can only hope to have my scooter looking that nice someday.

OP GuyNamedAleck Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:19:36 +0000 details Hooked Allstate Super Cruisaire Joined: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:11:11 +0000 Posts: 142 Location: Atlanta
OP GuyNamedAleck Hooked Allstate Super Cruisaire Joined: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:11:11 +0000 Posts: 142 Location: Atlanta	Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:19:36 +0000 quote Rover Eric wrote: Also, you're missing all your rubber floorstrips! You can buy a roll of that rubber, and just trim it to fit and press it into the aluminum channels. -Eric Ok, so I have the roll of rubber, but it's not sitting tightly in the channels. Should I just go ahead and use a touch of super glue?

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:19:28 +0000 quote

bah. See? They don't make the stuff well anymore! It's just not the same. *sigh*

I think i ordered a roll from scooterworks that i ended up being unable to use as well, because the rubber lacked the little fingers that hold it in the channel.

It should be hard to get that stuff in there. Usually you use a little flatblade screwdriver to pry the rubber into the channel. If it's not in there tight, it's not going to stay in there, and i should think adhesive will work for about 15 minutes.

See what i'm talking about? Pain in the ass.

Get ready to accumulate boxes of spare parts...most of which being stuff you ordered for yourself that you were never able to use or opted not to because of inferior quality.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:42:53 +0000 quote

I just went out and bought some gorilla clue (I am now looking for any excuse to run errands on the scooter ) that stuff is amazing. I'll give it a try later this week and we'll see how it goes.

I hate the idea of spending money on parts that won't be useable. I have very little money right now to be devoting to this project, but I keep wanting to buy stuff for the ride (like that seat cover, but it'll be a couple of weeks before I can get it).

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Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:23:03 +0000 quote

I'm ready to start shopping for the seat cover. I was going to start a new thread, but since we were already talking about it here, I figured I'd keep this one going.
I have since learned that what really matters is measuring the space between the handlebar on the back of the seat. I called Motorsport Scooters, and sure enough, the size that I need is the only one they don't have.
I measured 7.5 inches between the handlebar on the rear of the seat. I found this one, but it's 17.5cm which comes out to 6.89 inches:
http://scooter-center.com/scoweb/pages/productdetail.grid?product=288621642872288&dataModelSelection=&target=productdetail&category1=C:C_V:C_V_VNA1T&cid=3940&category2=CAT:CAT_SITZBANK&assemblyProduct=

Is this in fact what I'm looking for? If not, I'm definitely having some trouble tracking one down.

Rover Eric Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:37:41 +0000 details Moderator 1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150 Joined: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:05:05 +0000 Posts: 6980 Location: Detroit, Michigan
Rover Eric Moderator 1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150 Joined: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:05:05 +0000 Posts: 6980 Location: Detroit, Michigan	Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:37:41 +0000 quote oooh. that's a good looking cover. Yeah...you're looking for something of that quality. Scootopia in england hand makes lambretta seats, and i THINK vespa ones too. You should call over to Scooters Originali ( i know they bring over scootopia seat covers )... and see if Gene gets those in, or knows where you can get a good repro cover from.

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VLBJS1 Ossessionato Joined: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:31:41 +0000 Posts: 2633	Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:40:31 +0000 quote Agreed..that is nice Why can't we have quality stuff like that here?

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Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:43:07 +0000 quote

We can! We just have to be willing to pay for it. Scooterists are CHEAP! Seriously ...very very cheap. They would much rather buy a 25 dollar indian speedo that's looking to look shitty and break in a year than pony up 120 for a rebuilt original, or quality one. We've discussed this.

But it all boils down to cheaping out. If we're not going to be a crowd that pays for quality, we're going to have to accept that everything available to us here is going to be garbage indian parts....and the few of us that care are going to have to get out our check books and buy from german places or find NOS on italian ebay.

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Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:14:52 +0000 quote

Rover Eric wrote:

oooh. that's a good looking cover. Yeah...you're looking for something of that quality.

yes, but is this one specifically the right size? Like I said, there appears to be a .5 inch difference between this one and what I measured. Is that going to be a problem?
I'm unsure of these things, but if you guys tell me that this is the one, then I'll take that part number and find a way to order it.

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Rover Eric Moderator 1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150 Joined: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:05:05 +0000 Posts: 6980 Location: Detroit, Michigan	Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:20:13 +0000 quote i'm going to go out on a limb and say that most late 50's and 60's largeframe saddle seats were of the same shape and size. It was the mid-50's and earlier ones that were all wacky ...seemingly different by the year.

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Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:44:55 +0000 quote

Rover Eric wrote:

I'm curious what engine they put in. On the side of it will be stamped a VIN number ... it will say something like VLB1M or VSB1M or VNA1M or something like that. There will be 3 prefix digits beginning with V, then a number for the revision of the engine, then the letter M to signify it's a motor VIN.

I was just re-reading the rest of this thread and realized that I never answered this question. I now know enough to be able to tell you that it's a P150X engine

64Scoot Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:22:50 +0000 details Enthusiast 64 Vespa 150cc Joined: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:09:18 +0000 Posts: 84 Location: N.Westchester County,NY
64Scoot Enthusiast 64 Vespa 150cc Joined: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:09:18 +0000 Posts: 84 Location: N.Westchester County,NY	Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:22:50 +0000 quote I believe Scooterworks carries a pretty close copy of the original as well as the aquila namplate. The only thing left to find would be the rear bar that goes through the holes in the seat.

Rover Eric Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:49:32 +0000 details Moderator 1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150 Joined: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:05:05 +0000 Posts: 6980 Location: Detroit, Michigan
Rover Eric Moderator 1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150 Joined: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:05:05 +0000 Posts: 6980 Location: Detroit, Michigan	Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:49:32 +0000 quote so, i've seen those Aquila contentale badges... but my original seat cover w/ aquila badge there DIDN'T say contentale ... i wonder if that's what they put on all the badges that were for Italian / Euro market. Probably means "made here, in Aquila, Italy" whereas mine, which was off a US-market SS180, looked like this :

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Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:46:24 +0000 quote

[quote="Rover Eric"]so, i've seen those Aquila contentale badges... but my original seat cover w/ aquila badge there DIDN'T say contentale ... i wonder if that's what they put on all the badges that were for Italian / Euro market. Probably means "made here, in Aquila, Italy"
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My original cover was exactly like yours with the 'Aquila Italy" badge and not the contentale that Scooterworks sells. I actually ended up getting a correct badge from a guy on Ebay in Europe somewhere. What is you take on the seat though?

Rover Eric Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:49:21 +0000 details Moderator 1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150 Joined: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:05:05 +0000 Posts: 6980 Location: Detroit, Michigan
Rover Eric Moderator 1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150 Joined: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:05:05 +0000 Posts: 6980 Location: Detroit, Michigan	Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:49:21 +0000 quote i'd have to see it. I don't trust much from scooterworks.

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Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:47:45 +0000 quote

finally i can get to share my knowledge a bit (hope i am not wrong) aquila continentale are mostly a repop product from the originally aquila seat, i've discover it last sunday in vespa event as i see many ppl are so in love with this seat so i ask cause there are two seat with those aquila badge and the one with made in italy way to expensive (for a seat that didnt look good and need to repair) the guy telling me that the seat with badge aquila made in italy come with the scooter from the fast while continentale are come lately for scooter owner that damaged their vespa and want to change the seat with similar dealer seat (originaly seat).. so continentale are the product that come late

but i might be wrong as i am not expert in this (just curiousty in the seat as well) correction always welcome

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Rover Eric Moderator 1965 Vespa SS180, 1963 Lambretta LI150 Joined: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:05:05 +0000 Posts: 6980 Location: Detroit, Michigan	Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:20:25 +0000 quote makes sense to me... as i was sure my badge was original... but all the ones i see for sale all have the continentale on them.

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Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:52:52 +0000 quote

Rover Eric wrote:

makes sense to me... as i was sure my badge was original... but all the ones i see for sale all have the continentale on them.

hmm the one u have with made in italy was surely come along with the vespa when fisrt owner buy it from dealer but continentale was a seat that u can buy as OEM (original equipment manufacture) product which have the same design and almost identical quality but once again i am sure that aquila continentale was a repop.. but i might be wrong

to test it try to buy the continetal seat and compare it to ur made in italy even though its same was produce by aquila i will said the taste are diferent

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