Desmolicious wrote:
If you are really really concerned by this, add some useful bling to your bike by replacing the rubber hoses with braided steel brake lines. They come standard on some nice bikes, like Ducatis.
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Desmolicious wrote: If you are really really concerned by this, add some useful bling to your bike by replacing the rubber hoses with braided steel brake lines. They come standard on some nice bikes, like Ducatis. |
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Has anyone else noticed that they have really raised the price of this thing?
It was in the mid $40s when I bought mine, but I went to get another one as a gift for a friend and see that they are availible in the high $60s from the OEM, and in the high $70s from most other sources. I'm all for a company being able to tweak its prices on a new product to find the right price point... but this smacks of trying to see just how much the public will bear. |
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Haven't noticed a price rise, but I have noticed that where the price is UKP, either from them or a UK re-seller, even eBay, it's ALWAYS £45 (just over 70 USD).
With most products you'd expect some variation, but not here. Strange. |
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NZ Dollar is at 12 month high against USD and GBP. Latest shipment of Griplocks could have been wholesaled at a higher price and this has passed on to retail.
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60yoMod wrote: Haven't noticed a price rise, but I have noticed that where the price is UKP, either from them or a UK re-seller, even eBay, it's ALWAYS £45 (just over 70 USD). With most products you'd expect some variation, but not here. Strange. |
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Cheers Lloyd. Yeh, one of the £45 gang. I look at their site regularly. As it happens, I've spotted a new one on eBay in a straight auction format. Currently £21 and 7 bidders so it'll go for more
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Treppenwitz wrote: I'm all for a company being able to tweak its prices on a new product to find the right price point... but this smacks of trying to see just how much the public will bear. |
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... And a company that gouges their clients is not going to earn much loyalty. I'm just saying... this sort of thing sells on word of mouth.
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Just wondering how this lock has performed, since you guys bought them a while ago, has it paid off??
http://www.scooter-wear.com has it for £50 delivered cheers! ⚠️ Last edited by brasSailor on UTC; edited 1 time
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I received mine as a prize at a rally and it has worked great...never been tested though.
It takes all of 3 seconds to put on and even less to take off. I put it in my coat pocket or under my seat when I am riding. |
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BTW, WRT angle grinders...
BTW, WRT angle grinders, they are loud as all get out, if you're chugging through something metal.
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TechGuy wrote: I received mine as a prize at a rally and it has worked great...never been tested though. It takes all of 3 seconds to put on and even less to take off. I put it in my coat pocket or under my seat when I am riding. |
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brasSailor wrote: Just wondering how this lock has performed, since you guys bought them a while ago, has it paid off?? http://www.scooter-wear.com has it for £50 delivered cheers! Haven't had a single kid flood my engine since getting it. |
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It didn't stop the freaking idiots from dumping my scoot onto it's side tonight... a$$hats. It was a lovely evening until then. It was the first ride 2-up with my wife since i bought scoot over 2 years ago. She never expressed much interest.
We went to the Sacramento Kings and Oakland Warriors game. Every time the K & w play at Arco the freaking Warriors fans always do something on the way out of the parking lot. I am a season ticket holder and attend every game and they vist out arena 2-4 times per year and it is only an 80 mile drive between to two stadiums. Tonight was my turn to be the target. Sorry to the Warriors fans here but when you see them run to their car, load it full of "fans" and head off towards Highway 80 with little round heads with warriors beanie hats on hanging out the window ... you know what happened. |
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So sorry about the Oakland Asshats. Most of the people around here are pretty cool, but I think sporting events bring out the "juvenile thug tough guy in a group" crowd.
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thanks for the feedback, i've bought one from http://k-lock.co.uk/shop.html £45, since i'm probably not that luck at russian raffles
sorry to hear about the drop, that sucks, but as long as the missus has enjoyed the ride, we're game!! |
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erich51 wrote: Has it been mentioned that the grip lock won't work with a windshield? 8) |
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Silver Streak wrote: erich51 wrote: Has it been mentioned that the grip lock won't work with a windshield? 8) |
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Just remember a grip lock can be bypassed with a pair of diagonal cutters to cut the brake line. So, it's not going to stop any one who really wants your scooter, a big chain is always better.
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StooterBoy wrote: Just remember a grip lock can be bypassed with a pair of diagonal cutters to cut the brake line. So, it's not going to stop any one who really wants your scooter, a big chain is always better. There is no way I'm ever going to carry a 20-lb. lock and chain around with me and use it every time I park my bike to run into a store. That's why I have good insurance.
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StooterBoy wrote: Just remember a grip lock can be bypassed with a pair of diagonal cutters to cut the brake line. So, it's not going to stop any one who really wants your scooter, a big chain is always better. So they still would not be able to ride it away. What they can do is pick it up and throw it in the back of a truck. If they want to steal your bike with the chain lock, there's ways to defeat that too... Bottom line, if someone really wants your bike it's gone. Get whatever lock makes you happy, and get insurance. I use the grip lock because it works and is convenient. Plus no chance of riding away accidentally with the chain attached.. |
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Silver Streak wrote: This argument comes up over and over again... And it's getting oh so tiresome. One of the reasons I don't use a big chain on my scooter is because someone could just come along with a plasma cutter and ride that sucker away. Remember, you heard it here first. Don't say I didn't warn you. |
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Desmolicious wrote: StooterBoy wrote: Just remember a grip lock can be bypassed with a pair of diagonal cutters to cut the brake line. So, it's not going to stop any one who really wants your scooter, a big chain is always better. So they still would not be able to ride it away. What they can do is pick it up and throw it in the back of a truck. If they want to steal your bike with the chain lock, there's ways to defeat that too... Bottom line, if someone really wants your bike it's gone. Get whatever lock makes you happy, and get insurance. I use the grip lock because it works and is convenient. Plus no chance of riding away accidentally with the chain attached.. |
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Menhir wrote: Silver Streak wrote: This argument comes up over and over again... And it's getting oh so tiresome. |
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StooterBoy wrote: Desmolicious wrote: StooterBoy wrote: Just remember a grip lock can be bypassed with a pair of diagonal cutters to cut the brake line. So, it's not going to stop any one who really wants your scooter, a big chain is always better. So they still would not be able to ride it away. What they can do is pick it up and throw it in the back of a truck. If they want to steal your bike with the chain lock, there's ways to defeat that too... Bottom line, if someone really wants your bike it's gone. Get whatever lock makes you happy, and get insurance. I use the grip lock because it works and is convenient. Plus no chance of riding away accidentally with the chain attached.. Someone pushing a scoot with a big neon yellow lock attached to it is going to draw attention. Thieves looking for bikes carry bolt cutters with them. That's what they do. |
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Let's understand, it is merely one tool in the arsenal against theft.
Alarms can be defeated Chains can be cut Cables can be cut Disk locks can be broken off the disk with the correct chemicals and tools Grip locks can be cut or otherwise disabled Guard dogs can be distracted with bacon Trunk monkeys can be distracted with bananas Scooters can be lifted in placed into van or trucks, with enough people Nothing is 100%. Buy insurance. Scoot and Be happy |
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TechGuy wrote: Let's understand, it is merely one tool in the arsenal against theft. Alarms can be defeated Chains can be cut Cables can be cut Disk locks can be broken off the disk with the correct chemicals and tools Grip locks can be cut or otherwise disabled Guard dogs can be distracted with bacon Trunk monkeys can be distracted with bananas Scooters can be lifted in placed into van or trucks, with enough people Nothing is 100%. Buy insurance. Scoot and Be happy |
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TechGuy wrote: Let's understand, it is merely one tool in the arsenal against theft. Alarms can be defeated Chains can be cut Cables can be cut Disk locks can be broken off the disk with the correct chemicals and tools Grip locks can be cut or otherwise disabled Guard dogs can be distracted with bacon Trunk monkeys can be distracted with bananas Scooters can be lifted in placed into van or trucks, with enough people Nothing is 100%. Buy insurance. Scoot and Be happy Don't know the last time I had my bolt cutters in my truck with me, but I always have a pair of diagonal cutters in the truck. Ok, would you park your scooter in NYC with no cover and only a grip lock on it?? A grip lock is a good deterrent for quick trips in a store or in a some what secure area, but my MP3 isn't sitting in NYC over night with just a grip lock, I can promise you that |
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Desmolicious wrote: but so what? So you've cut the brake line. You still can't use the throttle, so you still have to carry the bike away - or push it if you have also broken the steering lock. Someone pushing a scoot with a big neon yellow lock attached to it is going to draw attention. Thieves looking for bikes carry bolt cutters with them. That's what they do. Have you seen the cutter it takes to cut some of these locks and chains. Don't know anyone that owns one that big. Cut brake line or as said, just loosen the bleed screw and push the scooter around the corner out from under that nice bright street light you parked under into the dark street or ally, push it up to the truck or van. Just saying they are the easiest to defeat and for some reason the same group gets on me every time I point this out. Hey, you guys haven't lived in the hood like I did for 3 years, if it wasn't bolted AND welded down, someone took it. I had a scooter and my very rare Kawasaki Z1 900 stolen. I take this subject very serious.
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I'm locking this thread, since StooterBoy seems intent on arguing this topic into the ground AGAIN for the umpteen millionth time.
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