Would any users consider buying a tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS) for the Fuoco 500 ?
I am busy designing a system for a 3-wheel vehicle and need to judge what the purchasing response would be.
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Would any users consider buying a tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS) for the Fuoco 500 ?
I am busy designing a system for a 3-wheel vehicle and need to judge what the purchasing response would be. Graham Durban South Africa |
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Re: Fuoco 500 - TPMS
Graham2107 wrote: Would any users consider buying a tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS) for the Fuoco 500 ? I am busy designing a system for a 3-wheel vehicle and need to judge what the purchasing response would be. Graham Durban South Africa |
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TPMS - concept
The idea, based on the existing car tyre system would be to have a valve stem transmitter with a built-in temperature sensor. Drop in pressure and/or a rise in temperature would create an alarm signal and relay this information to a wireless dash mounted panel.
My original posting was purely to see if anyone was interested in the idea. Thanks for your reply to the post. Let us hope many more for this subject. Graham Durban South Africa |
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I'd be interested. This was discussed once, and if I recall, some of the problems were that:
1. The current systems are very pricey to actually get a 'good' one. 2. The systems that do work well tend to have expensive sensors on the valve stems that could easily be taken off and stolen. 3. There is very little clearance, especially on the rear tire, of the Fuoco, so some of the better systems, while good, extended the valve stem length to dangerously close to the tire well/brake pad/wiring. If you could make a tire system with small, unnoticeable additions to the tire stems and a simple to read electronic readout that could be mounted on the dash, you'd have a winner! |
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The automotive TPMS I know about put the sensors inside the wheel, at the base of the stem, so no worries about clearance. Personally I'd rather check my pressure before each ride than have another annoying nanny light.
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ramblerdan wrote: The automotive TPMS I know about put the sensors inside the wheel, at the base of the stem, so no worries about clearance. Personally I'd rather check my pressure before each ride than have another annoying nanny light. |
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Thanks for all the feedback, much appreciated.
Quote: The systems that do work well tend to have expensive sensors on the valve stems that could easily be taken off and stolen. My main technical concern is the clearance that the rear tyre has for this transmitter to be mounted inside. Quote: The current systems are very pricey to actually get a 'good' one. Quote: If you could make a tire system with small, unnoticeable additions to the tire stems and a simple to read electronic readout that could be mounted on the dash, you'd have a winner! Graham |
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ramblerdan wrote: Personally I'd rather check my pressure before each ride than have another annoying nanny light. |
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Quote: I have to agree, too many monitor lights are distracting. And monitoring systems can offer false security... |
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Graham2107 wrote: Quote: I have to agree, too many monitor lights are distracting. And monitoring systems can offer false security... Someday, probably not too far off, we can have full-on, self-powered, wireless transmitters all over the scooter ("smart dust") that tie into an onboard network nexus and keep our head-up displays in our helmets poulated with status info on demand. Kind of like that Ironman movie but without the distraction of constant display. Now THAT will be an interesting niche! |
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BravoTwoFour wrote: ramblerdan wrote: Personally I'd rather check my pressure before each ride than have another annoying nanny light. Wayne B |
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I can easily see the value of such a system, particularly for long road trips. Alas, I'm the kind of bought-a-scooter-because-I-couldn't-afford-a-car consumer who has almost no chance of actually coughing up money for one.
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TPMS - valve stem transmitter
The valve stem transmitter. The "wing nut" side of the transmitter (the antenna) goes inside the tyre.
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Quote: interesting...do you have to take the tire off to change the battery? |
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lostboy wrote: I can easily see the value of such a system, particularly for long road trips. Alas, I'm the kind of bought-a-scooter-because-I-couldn't-afford-a-car consumer who has almost no chance of actually coughing up money for one. Wayne B |
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Re: TPMS - valve stem transmitter
Graham2107 wrote: The valve stem transmitter. The "wing nut" side of the transmitter (the antenna) goes inside the tyre. I think this is an excellent idea...how would you wire up the system so that there's some sort of indicator on the dash? Barry |
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Wayne B wrote: You've never had a flat while riding have you? I did the other day and would of loved to have this system. The thing that sold me is the sensor on the valve stem inside the rim, not a screw on cap. Wayne B |
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Graham2107 wrote: Quote: I think this is an excellent idea...how would you wire up the system so that there's some sort of indicator on the dash? |
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Graham2107 wrote: Quote: I think this is an excellent idea...how would you wire up the system so that there's some sort of indicator on the dash? |
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This does look like a great system, and I'd definitely buy one. I hate having to check the tire pressure by hand. I've certainly found the pressure sensing system in my car handy on several occasions.
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I've bought similar systems for cars and would be interested in a well designed system for the MP3 if the price is right.
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Quote: What is the size of the display unit? Quote: I've bought similar systems for cars and would be interested in a well designed system for the MP3 if the price is right. 4-wheel car display with the 4 valve stem transmitters shown here. ![]() |
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BIGDDY wrote: 80 x 50 mm? That's Pretty DARN big ![]() ![]() |
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Graham2107 wrote: Quote: What is the size of the display unit? Like I said, just a thought! |
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Personally I put Ultraseal in all my tires and never had to add air again although I check it once in a while.
With those sensors you can't put any sealant in the tires so if you pick up a nail it will go flat. Then your in for a $100 towing charge or you have to carry a "fix a flat" kit with you. |
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larry8 wrote: Personally I put Ultraseal in all my tires and never had to add air again although I check it once in a while. With those sensors you can't put any sealant in the tires so if you pick up a nail it will go flat. Then your in for a $100 towing charge or you have to carry a "fix a flat" kit with you. |
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Quote: Just a thought, but since you only need three display windows for MP3 tire pressure and you likely use this same display unit, why not a voltage transducer and sending unit and the fourth corner is for realtime voltage display? Quote: With those sensors you can't put any sealant in the tires so if you pick up a nail it will go flat. Then your in for a $100 towing charge or you have to carry a "fix a flat" kit with you. Quote: Would having this type of valve require any special type of tire removal? |
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Quote: With those sensors you can't put any sealant in the tires so if you pick up a nail it will go flat. Then your in for a $100 towing charge or you have to carry a "fix a flat" kit with you. The sealant will plug up the sensor in the tire. My Toyota Rav4 has the sensors and the manual states not to install any type sealant. I also called Ultraseal and they told me the same thing. |
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