Which tire would be better for all round use:
Michelin
S83 Classic Scooter Tire
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S1 Performance Scooter Tire
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Which tire would be better for all round use:
Michelin S83 Classic Scooter Tire or Michelin S1 Performance Scooter Tire |
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Mate the S1's are better.
There was a thread a few weeks back. Some members loved the S83's Not sure why really, i think they are terrible. Cheers I just noticed they also sell the hoop, great sticky tyre. |
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Perelli Tires are my new/ old fav. They came standard on the P in the 80's.
Cheap and last a long time. I've had these on a few of my old MC. These will be my next set for the Rally. There was a recent link on here where they had them for a great price .! |
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I need a tire that doesn't give me a lot of lateral movement on metal grate
bridges or metal grate air vents for subway trains that just happen to be in the roadway and won't get me too stuck on road snakes, The S83's look like they'd hold the road well, They have a nice wide tread area that is concentrated. I'm unsure though without hearing about them from other users that ride under those conditions. Speed doesn't mean much to me, Even though these are both J rated tires. |
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definatly S1's or if you can get them continental Zippy 1's, S83 grip like an icecube on glass
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S83 = Ditchfinders = SHITE!
Bloody horrible things, take corners like a plank of wood and are as slippery as fuck in the rain. I think people like them cos they have that retro tread pattern, personally i hate them and after having a pair on a my current scoot when i bought it i wouldn't touch them ever again. S1's or Zippy's or Schwalb's or Yokohama's (if you can get them rare as hens teeth) |
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Just changed from S83's to Zippys - completely transformed the handling. The Zippy's are so much more planted and don't slither around on white lines or manhole covers, and corner really sweetly....give them a go...
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I'd get the S1's or Zippy's
I have had the S1's for the last 6 tires and they really hold great, wet or dry. The zippys are just as good in my opinion too, I had a set of them on my honda scooter and sooo much better than the alternatives.......
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Looks like the Zippy 1's will be my next tire,
My P200E came with Kenda tires, Not bad, But I want better. I'll look into getting 3 Zippy 1's asap. |
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Big Foot wrote: Looks like the Zippy 1's will be my next tire, My P200E came with Kenda tires, Not bad, But I want better. I'll look into getting 3 Zippy 1's asap. |
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Eldorado wrote: Big Foot wrote: Looks like the Zippy 1's will be my next tire, My P200E came with Kenda tires, Not bad, But I want better. I'll look into getting 3 Zippy 1's asap. Heh |
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Big Foot wrote: I live in Canada, Maybe I should order 6. Heh Though you may have said it in jest, if you ARE ordering six tires at -- let's say -- $31 each, you're definitely going to hit the benchmark for where brokerage fees have to be paid. Note that this is for items that DON'T have to have customs applied (so you're not trying to sneak any fees by a gov't) but the shipment still ends up having to get handled by the courier's broker and therefore you get charged for that, plus tax. This can often add a delay to them item crossing the border, then the courier has to collect for that C.O.D., so it delays shipment even more if you're not there at the moment they arrive but have to leave a cheque for the next day or go and pick it up yourself. There are times when I've paid for a UPS brokerage fee of $20 plus tax even though there was no duty charged (just to clear the items of a retail $160 order, declared value of ~$30). If you can, try to deal with retailers that will put a declared value of the actual cost (e.g. manufacturing cost) of the item, as in my example above, rather than the retail value they charge. This is totally above board, but often retailers who don't deal with stuff over the border a lot (or don't care) won't make a distinction and your shipment will get flagged to get handled by the broker (who then holds it up to collect the sub $2 in GST, then charges you $20 for their service). Scooter Parts Direct is my #1 choice because of their awareness of this, plus their top notch customer service (if I've ever had a problem they've immediately addressed it, and in one case where I paid $40 to get a stator machined down because it didn't quite fit and was rubbing on the flywheel they gave me a $40 credit in the form of a gift certificate and were sincerely apologetic). Sorry to hijack your thread with a diatribe and cross-border shipping and charges, but it's something to consider if you're ordering from motorcycle-superstore.com. You could end up paying half as much for a brokerage fee as you do a tire, and it doesn't end up helping your traction at all. |
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I used to use Dexters but they dropped them So now I use SM100's good all year round. S1's are good in the summer but very slippy on leaf covered (wo)man holes
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Re: P200E tires
Big Foot wrote: Which tire would be better for all round use: Michelin S83 Classic Scooter Tire or Michelin S1 Performance Scooter Tire jacqui |
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Re: P200E tires
jacqui wrote: Big Foot wrote: Which tire would be better for all round use: Michelin S83 Classic Scooter Tire or Michelin S1 Performance Scooter Tire jacqui Where do you get them from? |
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Re: P200E tires
Big Foot wrote: jacqui wrote: Big Foot wrote: Which tire would be better for all round use: Michelin S83 Classic Scooter Tire or Michelin S1 Performance Scooter Tire jacqui Where do you get them from? jacqui |
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look like conti zippy the winner...
how about bridgestone bt39... anyone experienced with it? |
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I can't get the Zippy 1's, They are on back order,
But I can get some Michelin S1's though, So it looks like I'll be getting the Michelin's. |
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phaetn wrote: Big Foot wrote: I live in Canada, Maybe I should order 6. Heh Though you may have said it in jest, if you ARE ordering six tires at -- let's say -- $31 each, you're definitely going to hit the benchmark for where brokerage fees have to be paid. Note that this is for items that DON'T have to have customs applied (so you're not trying to sneak any fees by a gov't) but the shipment still ends up having to get handled by the courier's broker and therefore you get charged for that, plus tax. This can often add a delay to them item crossing the border, then the courier has to collect for that C.O.D., so it delays shipment even more if you're not there at the moment they arrive but have to leave a cheque for the next day or go and pick it up yourself. There are times when I've paid for a UPS brokerage fee of $20 plus tax even though there was no duty charged (just to clear the items of a retail $160 order, declared value of ~$30). If you can, try to deal with retailers that will put a declared value of the actual cost (e.g. manufacturing cost) of the item, as in my example above, rather than the retail value they charge. This is totally above board, but often retailers who don't deal with stuff over the border a lot (or don't care) won't make a distinction and your shipment will get flagged to get handled by the broker (who then holds it up to collect the sub $2 in GST, then charges you $20 for their service). Scooter Parts Direct is my #1 choice because of their awareness of this, plus their top notch customer service (if I've ever had a problem they've immediately addressed it, and in one case where I paid $40 to get a stator machined down because it didn't quite fit and was rubbing on the flywheel they gave me a $40 credit in the form of a gift certificate and were sincerely apologetic). Sorry to hijack your thread with a diatribe and cross-border shipping and charges, but it's something to consider if you're ordering from motorcycle-superstore.com. You could end up paying half as much for a brokerage fee as you do a tire, and it doesn't end up helping your traction at all. That's what I did when I ordered a Prima pipe for my Derbi Blvd 150. Dealers have better shipping networks than the average consumer, You pay a bit more though, But it's worth it in the long run compared to doing it yourself cost wise. |
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Big Foot wrote: If you order through a dealer, Then you don't pay brokerage fee's, That's what I did when I ordered a Prima pipe for my Derbi Blvd 150. Dealers have better shipping networks than the average consumer, You pay a bit more though, But it's worth it in the long run compared to doing it yourself cost wise. |
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phaetn wrote: Big Foot wrote: If you order through a dealer, Then you don't pay brokerage fee's, That's what I did when I ordered a Prima pipe for my Derbi Blvd 150. Dealers have better shipping networks than the average consumer, You pay a bit more though, But it's worth it in the long run compared to doing it yourself cost wise. Maybe the dealer has a tunnel, Heh |
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Any recommendations for air pressure,
I was using 20 in the front and 30 in the rear, But I'm now going to try 30 in the front and 32 in the rear. I only weigh about 180 lbs, Not sure what is a good air pressure to use. |
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I have smaller tires than you (3.5" x 8") but I found a good compromise between ride comfort and handling was 23psi front and 25-28psi rear. Always inflate and check pressure on cold tires, of course, and I tend to do it on a cooler day in the morning, too. I'm about 170lbs.
Check tire pressure often. It's critical for good traction in any vehicle (vastly affecting braking distances and cornering ability), but especially on a scooter where you only have two wheels and you lean on them to corner. |
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I think I'll try 26 lbs in the front and 32 lbs in the rear,
The tires are rated up to 36 lbs. |
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