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Anything look fishy about this one? The ad just says its a 1979 Vespa, but a little birdy let me know its a P200. Asking $1250.

I am new poster. I try make picture is smal as possible. My is good english? Bike not from asia restroartaion. Clown emoticon
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Ok, any more info? Issues ect?

If it doesn't have issues call in sick to work, stop posting here for a few hours and go get t, that's a good deal.
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Buy it..it's just got a shite 2 tone pain job that's it..It's a P200..perfect for ya mate!
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Weird...no autolube. It's not a US market P-series.

Also weird : key switch next to the helmet hook like asian bikes have, rather than on the headset like early P-series have.

Could this possibly be a PGO or something?

The horncast is wrong for a 1979 as well... and it appears to have an electric start button, which the '79 wouldn't have had.

Also, i've never seen that seat before.
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Oh great...a bodged P200 here in the states... Crying or Very sad emoticon
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well, i'm not suggesting it's a bodge, necessarily...

but i want you to be aware that it's not a US-spec P-series. It might be a euro model, like Jeremy has. Maybe he can chime in if this seems similar to his ( with the under-seat key thing )

Or, it could be a PGO ( Taiwanese-made ) p-series ... or one of the other licensee-built p-series, as opposed to a real-deal italian one.

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Eric's spot on as usual! Then again, don't let that put you off, PGO (Vespa Licensed Manufr.) or not, it's still a good buy. Go get it and don't post anymore till you have it! Razz emoticon

BTW, Dullivan, your engrish is bery gud.

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BTW, Dullivan, your engrish is bery gud.

Engrishfunny.com is another one of my internet addictions, and being in tech support, bodged English is one of my specialties.

I called for the scoot, but got no answer, and left a message. I'll try again at 5p if I haven't heard from them. It's five hours from here, but I think I'll be able to swing it for a P. I'll head out tomorrow if I hear from them by then. Then we'll really get to see what's going on with that thing.
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its crap mate buy a LX
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its crap mate buy a LX
I recommend a Ruckus or a Buddy. Razz emoticon
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I recommend a Maico Mobil. Also, i recommend learning how to play the tuba. Strap the tuba to the Maico Mobil, and then bust it out in traffic jams and play an "oom-pah oom-pah" type bass line. Also, wear leiderhosen...if you can get armored leiderhosen that might be a good idea as well - safety first, after all.

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ROFL emoticon Good mental image Eric!
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I love those....when they are riding towards you you can't see the front tire and they look like a hovercraft.

Always wear armor, never know when you may need it...
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It's a bike where NOBODY could possibly appear to be too rotund for. That scoot does all the "fat" for you.
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Amfibious?
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It really is the TweedleDee of the scooter world...
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I took this picture at Amerivespa 2009

I like this scoot !
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Love the Maico; it makes a P200 look positively anorexic!
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It's a PGO also known as a PE150. It has already been purchased by a guy here in town and it be at the shop on Tuesday for a tune up.
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thats the sound of happy sniper.
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Looks like Dullivan will have to keep riding his hay-muncher a little bit longer.
Bugger!
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I like how the silver one has had some black "slimming" lines painted on...... It didn't work
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mattgyver wrote:
It has already been purchased by a guy here in town...
Yep, I'd already called the guy and let him know I was going to send a buddy with mechanical knowledge up there in a couple of hours to give it the once over and let me know it was good to go ahead and load up the trailer and make the drive. He was basically just going to look for rust and stuff, obvious things like whether or not there was an engine (if you laugh, remember, I've run into that before) etc etc. The man said that was fine, and if my buddy came and gave the OK and I said I'd be there to buy it tomorrow he'd hold it for me. Apparently, a guy came between that conversation and my buddy's visit, and snatched the thing up. Had cash on him and everything when he knocked on the door. Crazy. I guess I'll just have to keep looking. It's not like I'm not used to it. Oh well.
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Had cash on him and everything when he knocked on the door.
Kind of sounds like me. Whenever I look at anything I'm remotely interested in I always have cash in my pocket just in case. That PGO was probably a decent scooter. If it was running clean I would a bought it.
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i have said it before

the pgo is a sound bike

when piaggio was short on parts during the crazy 60's and 70's they out sourced parts from pgo and even had 'piaggio' 'italy' stamped on them.

yes,many of us are running pgo machined parts in our italian only bikes. Nerd emoticon
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Dude, I hope this doesn't come out the wrong way, but:

JUST BUY A FUCKING SCOOTER! Crying or Very sad emoticon
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danyouhandleit wrote:
Dude, I hope this doesn't come out the wrong way, but:

JUST BUY A FUCKING SCOOTER! Crying or Very sad emoticon
I'm workin on that. I don't know if you actually read my post, but I was going to go buy the dang thing and got sniped. It's not terribly easy when you're an hour away from everything, and 5 hours away from every scooter thats come along on craigslist.
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I love those....when they are riding towards you you can't see the front tire and they look like a hovercraft.

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I think that lady in the back is telling her kid not to play near the strange motercycle ninja. I love the flash gordon scoots, I would feel very safe in that, even if I didnt have armored ledenhosen.
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Hm. Cool.
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Okay, seriously, I have a reason to continue on with this thread now. A guy just emailed me pics for an allstate he's selling. He has almost no information on it other than that he bought it year or so ago, realized it was going to cost him more than he though to restore it, and he hasn't cranked it since then. He's not even interested in TRYING to crank it, he just wants to get rid of it. $600. He says he doesn't think it has any wiring in it "for the lights", which probably means, it doesn't have any wiring it in period. He also swears the body "doesn't look as dinged up as the picture" and that the guy before him "bondo-ed some of the larger dents". Also, is this a small or largeframe? Can anybody ID the year?

EDIT: It'd help if the picture I tried to attach weren't gigantor. lol
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is that horn cast not too late for a 1979 one?, sorry didnt realise itd been mentioned
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I would pass on this one mate. It's a Allstate with a VNA headset.

Keep looking for that P series, i will keep my eyes peeled for you too.

Good luck.

Cheers
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I would pass on this one mate. It's a Allstate with a VNA headset.

Keep looking for that P series, i will keep my eyes peeled for you too.

Good luck.

Cheers
See, stuff like this is why I love this place. You guys shoot me straight, but you're still encouraging. Thanks for the info. I knew this thing looked pretty raggedy from the cottage cheese looking frame and the missing headlight assembly, but it's the important stuff like what y'all can spot that really makes the difference. Thanks again.
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I mean...it's a late 50's allstate.. '58 or '59.

You're going to pay 600 and then have another 1000 in it to buy all the parts you need for it. I'd pass. Get a complete runner, not a project for your first bike.

He's selling you a rattle canned, non-running, non wired, totally common and not entirely desireable scooter for $600? I think you're getting ripped off. I'd say "start it and i'll give you $600...otherwise i'll give you $200"
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I would pass on this one mate. It's a Allstate with a VNA headset.

Keep looking for that P series, i will keep my eyes peeled for you too.

Good luck.

Cheers
+1

we have a couple good canidates out here

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/1291963090.html

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/1290846668.html
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Nice one Jimmy 8)

I love the surf rack option. And a common sense price too.

As mentioned before mate (OP) we all really want to make sure you get a GOOD scooter to start with. We are a small but true community. Steering you in the right direction.

P series are common and are generally easy to get parts for.

Hang in there.

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jimh wrote:
I would pass on this one mate. It's a Allstate with a VNA headset.

Keep looking for that P series, i will keep my eyes peeled for you too.

Good luck.

Cheers
Unless you just want a classic looking vespa that wouldn't be a good daily rider. This model has a shitty fork and a piston ported motor that has a not common carb and I don't think there is much cost effectively you can do performance wise with the older set-up.

That being said maybe you should Offer $250 and fix it up, learn what you can and then decide if you want to trade up. You did start off posting on the Atlanta forums saying that you wanted a couple hundred dollar barn find to fix up.

You can learn about the differences in the models from this site (small frame, large frame, wide body, etc.).
http://www.scooterlounge.com/Vespa/Sears/Sears.shtml
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i can get that beach bike today for 15
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