Modern Vespa

i went to an LML showroom today , and the price tag was very cheap. with the money spent on my t5 i could have bought a new lml . ok its not a vespa , very nice tough

With the money I've spent on my p200, I could have bought a lot of other things.

You're probably the first person in the history of the world that currently OWNS a T5, and is gazing longingly at a Stella. It's typically the other way around.

with the money i spent on my p, i could have bought alotta lotta lotta things.


yea, and why are you waxing over a stel when you have a t5,whuts up

I'll get you a Stella - can I have the T5? 8)

I could've bought a lot of ice cream with the money I spent on my 160.

Or hookers.

Whichever.

- Eric

I don't think I would have gotten my picture taken as many times on a Stella. By comp

in thirty years, your scoot will be worth more. because it is a real vespa, and not some third world copy. i get why people buy stellas. i do. they are brand new and shiny and you probably have a few years before you have much maintenance. if you have no desire to wrench you can probably just hop on and ride for 3 or so years. but they are not vespas and i do not think 30 years from now that they will be anywhere near as desirable as a real italian vespa.

Jesus Christ..give me your T5 and I will buy a Stella for you and ship it to you

o man, every time i post somethig and get this kind of reply i really love more T5. maysbe is the 'brand new' effect.

Value on ANY vehicle tends to follow a "U" shaped graph, where decreases in cost up until the time it becomes collectible, and then increases from there. Stellas are at the beginning of that "U". P-series and GS160's ( any vintage) are on the other side of the dip.

eric, well put.

retro s, i would say it is definitely the brand new effect. but, i would look for a clean p200 before i looked at a stella. we have a dealer that sells stellas less than an hour away. are like 3400 or so before all the dealer costs. with all the dealer costs, they are close to 4000. they lose money the minute you sign the papers, they look like a vespa (made on old p series stamps) but they are not vespas, and they are from the third world. in twenty years you have a indian frame with an indian engine in it. not a vespa. for 4000 dollars you can probably find a rally. there have been a lot of them for sale in the 4000 dollar range. and, you will have a bike worth what you paid for it.

To reinforce what Jeff is saying, look at old Bajaj's.

Those were made with vespa tooling, in india ...and were ( for all intents and purposes ) indian-made vespas for the 3rd world market.

A good condition mid 60's or 70's Bajaj 150 ( which looks sorta like a Sprint ) is probably worth half of what a good condition Sprint 150 from that same year would be worth.

Now, the Stella has a lot more amenities than your average vintage bike, but that's not really comparing apples to apples. A more valid comparison would be to compare a 2005 Stella with a 2005 PX150. In 20 years, will anyone want the stella - will it be the next Bajaj, with people actively seeking out the actual Italian vespas over the indian knockoffs?

Who cares about 20 years down the road? The world is gonna end in 2012 anyway. Buy what you like and ride it now.

I feel ya, but there is a price/functionality breakover too. A vintage Bajaj (or maybe even a modern one) owner may want to get some cheap vintage transportation or might want to get into the scene for less $. A Bajaj is a good, cheap way of getting into that scene. It's also a bridge to true vintage scoot ownership (or something a bit more modern like a P200 or a T5) and that's good too. As much as I hate to say it, the typical novice scooter aficionado is NOT in it to have a scooter that will gain value or that will still be in the family in 20 years. You know people in our club who are going to be out of the 'scooter scene' in a few years (if they last that long), who won't be rebuilding stuff, or who just prefer a modern (Vespa) twistie. It's all good, and yes, I want to be that rare person who cherishes a vintage scoot (T5 would be nice) for a lifetime. I also want an Aprilia SR50, a Vespa S and about a half-dozen other scoots, maybe. I got it bad, man.

Im sorry but if theres onme person who dosn't deserva a T5 ......... all you do is moan about it.

Mines a peice of ratty shit but I'd give both my bollocks before Id get rid.

Go put your lid on and get your keys and enjoy the fucker.

If you wanna feel like you're on a LML only open the throttle halfway







Sorry but it had to be said

Retro S - If you don't like the T5, send 'er on over to me and I'll spruce it up and send it back. Might look a lot like a Honda Metro... but trust me, I'm just a genius in the shop 8)

no , you got me wrong, its because when i bought it , the previous owner didnt tell me that i had to change 3/4 of the engine, and i was on a tight budget. im enjoying it a lot, and its damn fast especially compared to my vespa s. you know , money goes out fast from your pocket...

Its like you want a bajaj instead of ferrari

so what if your money goes out fast? in a few years your T5 will worth triple or more...

i wish i had a T5

Have you been watching Penn and Tellers Bullshit?

http://www.sho.com/site/video/brightcove/series/title.do?bcpid=14033851001&bclid=28919763001

Special Offer!

I'll buy all of your scooters anytime in 2011. I'll give you $50 per scooter. You won't need em anymore the world is gonna be destroyed! Take the 50 bucks go get drunk or whatever who cares right? It's a great deal and you should seriously consider it. Limited time only.

I wish there was an emoticon for two fingers playing the world's smallest violin right now.

i have an emoticon of two fingers jerking off the worlds smallest johnson

that should put an end to that

I might need that the next time I see a new LML.

I love my P200E. I love my Stella. I didn't buy either of them for the investment value. Enjoy the ride!