Modern Vespa : wax on wax off!!!

wax on wax off!!!

OP 1969lambretta UTC details Hooked gts 125 super Joined: UTC Posts: 204 Location: wolverhampton
OP 1969lambretta Hooked gts 125 super Joined: UTC Posts: 204 Location: wolverhampton	UTC quote I have a black gts 125 and as we all know its shows every imperfection going, at the minute its not to bad, but it does need a good polish/waxing. Anyone know to some good stuff? cheers and ride safe....dean. 8)

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DougL El Macho 0/0 Joined: UTC Posts: 9059 Location: Porto 4050-570	UTC quote Use a filler type wax or acrylic. This will hide the swirls if you don't want to use a proper polish to remove them. Autoglym Super Resin Polish fits into this category, as does Meguiars NXT.

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Wayne B Banned Joined: UTC Posts: 2919	UTC quote And keep the swirl marks out by not washing or waxing in circular motions. You want to wash and wax in straight back and forth motion NOT circular motion. Wayne B

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Wayne B wrote:

And keep the swirl marks out by not washing or waxing in circular motions.
You want to wash and wax in straight back and forth motion NOT circular motion.

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Sorry Wayne but I beg to differ . Back and forth washing will produce swirls. Even linear marks look like circles in bright sunshine. Something to do with reflection/refractivity. God knows, I'm not a physicist.

Best way to prevent swirls is to wash off thick dirt with running water and then use a two bucket method. One soapy and then one of clean water for rinsing off your wash mitt before going for more soap again. I'm not that anally retentive and would't buy black for that very reason.

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vlconception Addicted Esme Partly Kitted ET4. Joined: UTC Posts: 634 Location: SW LDN	UTC quote Wurth Products are great, recently used their Acrylic based polish which made my pearl ET4 shine even more.

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I had the same deal, the scooter was one huge swirlmark!

This is what I did.

First up I used a rubbing compound (like T-cut).

Then I used Turtle Wax Black Box, it's a system specifically made for black finishes.

Black Box is three products, first there is a cleaner wax, tinted black, this fills all the little nicks in the paintwork with black pigment.

You put this on and then clean it off with the black tinted detailing spray.

Then there is a black tinted carnauba wax, you put this on and then rub it off, then finish again with the detail spray.

It comes up very well.

I went one step further and did like 4 coats of Meguiars NXT 2.0, that stuff is wonderful.

It fills and hides anything that may be left over.

This is it in the pic, after the polish at Amerivespa.

It's a shame I dropped it last week.....

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jimc UTC details Moderaptor The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300 Joined: UTC Posts: 44825 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
jimc Moderaptor The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300 Joined: UTC Posts: 44825 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA	UTC quote <cringe> Ride the damn things - want to wax? - try the g/f's legs... Negative

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michaelsvespa Hooked gts 250 Joined: UTC Posts: 327 Location: new fairfield ct.	UTC quote i use spray wax, back and forth....no swirls

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hr2lrn Addicted GT200, Honda GB500, Honda CB400, Honda C70 Passport, 1999 Harley Dyna, 2002 Suzuki SV650s Joined: UTC Posts: 695 Location: New Orleans	UTC quote jimc wrote: <cringe> Ride the damn things - want to wax? - try the g/f's legs... +1

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I used to hav a black Bronco II and had the same issue. I found a product at the local auto paint supply made by 3M called Finishing Cream. You use it just like a liquid car wax.. Never had a swirl mark issue again. Oh and to eliminate the dust problem on black vehicles, try puting a bounce anti static dryer sheet in the bucket of soapy water and wash your scoot as normal. It cuts the surface static on the scooter and keeps the dust to a minimum.

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Re: wax on wax off!!!

1969lambretta wrote:

I have a black gts 125 and as we all know its shows every imperfection going, at the minute its not to bad, but it does need a good polish/waxing. Anyone know to some good stuff? cheers and ride safe....dean. 8)

Ues pleadge yes the kind you would use on a table. its the best and easy. if you must wax use insulator wax. you won't regret it. also use a micro fiber towel. make sure paint is cool to touch and not in the sun.
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/collinite-wax/

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175mws UTC details The Host with the Toast Joined: UTC Posts: 7199 Location: SoCal
175mws The Host with the Toast Joined: UTC Posts: 7199 Location: SoCal	UTC quote color sanding clear coat Wayne B wrote: And keep the swirl marks out by not washing or waxing in circular motions. You want to wash and wax in straight back and forth motion NOT circular motion. Wayne B That would be true for color sanding. and for that you should use soft scrub.

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Bill Dog eeeee bip BMW R1100RT The Problem Child Kymco Downtown 300 - I'm not the Uber BMW R1200 RT Big Red Joined: UTC Posts: 21342 Location: South East Great England of Britishland	UTC quote Buff Me I'm with Doug on this one. Mequires and Autogylm are the way to go. I've used pretty much most of the polishing products out there on all kinds of cages and bikes/scoots and these two are easily the best. The only thing that comes close is Harley Wax. It's 100 % Carnuba. Bill X

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HauntedMyst Hooked MP3 500 Joined: UTC Posts: 480 Location: Chicago	UTC quote Hit it with a liquid clay bar if you are getting swirls in the clear coat, then apply a carnuba wax. For regular weekly polishings, use Turtle Wax Ice on the whole bike.

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fluffy Hooked Beverly 350 "Mavis" Joined: UTC Posts: 475 Location: Sydney	UTC quote Midnight blue shows good dirt too. I use Meguiars Wet Look silicone- its easy, and it makes the bird shit slide right off.

Benito UTC details Moderator 2010 Dragon Red GTS 300 Super, 2018 Grigio Titanio Piaggio Liberty S 150 Joined: UTC Posts: 16296 Location: Toronto, Canada, Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Benito Moderator 2010 Dragon Red GTS 300 Super, 2018 Grigio Titanio Piaggio Liberty S 150 Joined: UTC Posts: 16296 Location: Toronto, Canada, Fort Lauderdale, Florida	UTC quote I LOVE dragon red, it shows little dirt and is easy to keep clean looking. I use a wax gel and is applied on the cloth that you use to dry the scooter after washing, so in fact, you're waxing as you're drying so there isn't any extra work.

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Lifer Molto Verboso Black Molly - GTS 300 Joined: UTC Posts: 1217 Location: Essen, Germany	UTC quote Turtle Wax has a product called ICE I want to try. It is a clear liquid polish I saw it advertised on Sky... but can't find it in Germany

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Zippy Hooked Dragon Red LX 150 (Hillary) Joined: UTC Posts: 450 Location: Alpena, Michigan, USA	UTC quote Good advice jimc.!!!!!!!!!! Paul

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NightWing Contributor 2007 LX 150 (memories) Joined: UTC Posts: 8581 Location: New Hampshire	UTC quote Acid rain.

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the best wax in the world is Collinite,its not cheap but its is the best

its not a liquid wax its solid until put on a cloth and lasts a whole year

you can use it on all parts of your Vespa,body,rubber,chrome,fly screen and plastics
also it dosent leave any dust when buffing the wax off like most do

it was recommended to me and I would recommend it to others
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http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/collinite-no-476s-super-doublecoat-auto-wax/prod_207.html

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http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/collinite-476s-super-double-coat-wax-18fl-oz/prod_451.html

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Collinite No.476S Super Double Coat wax is the permanent car wax.

Without doubt Collinite 476 is the most durable car wax we have come across. It doesn't smell great but once you see just how good the results are and how easy to apply you will forgive it that. Buffing of is also childs play and the results look absolutely stunning. It adds depth to solid colours whilst not muting the flake on metallics.

Super Double coat paste wax #476 is a Carnauba based wax packaged in a tin that looks like it belongs in the 50's. Don't let that fool you though this is one of the finest waxes on the market. It is a true paste wax and contains absolutly no cleaners so by applying multiple thin layers you leave a finish which is more durable than not just any wax, but just about any sealant on the market.

Infact Collinite #476 is so durable that the manufacture claims one application will last a full 12 months come rain, snow and sun! This is the it's true forte. Somehow Collinite have managed to manufacture a wax so extremely durable it becomes the ideal choice all year round protection.All this makes Super Doublecoat #476s a very popular choice for winter, throwing off the worst weather with ease.

Wet clear finish
Carnauba based paste wax
No cleaners
Very very durable (the most durable car wax on the planet?)

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Bill Dog eeeee bip BMW R1100RT The Problem Child Kymco Downtown 300 - I'm not the Uber BMW R1200 RT Big Red Joined: UTC Posts: 21342 Location: South East Great England of Britishland	UTC quote Transport Lifer Just ask mate and I'll send you some. I saw some in Halfords only 5 hours ago. Much affection Bill X

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peasap Enthusiast Piaggio MP3 500 Joined: UTC Posts: 87 Location: San Diego, California	UTC quote Turtle wax ICE is great, works awesomely well, very easy to apply and 'wax off'.

marc UTC details Molto Verboso 06 GTS250. 00 Yamaha Vino airsal 70cc. 01 ET4 (wrecked). 67 Lambretta Vega125. 48 Beam Doodlebug Super. 1915 Board Track replica 80cc Joined: UTC Posts: 1352 Location: Monterey Ca.
marc Molto Verboso 06 GTS250. 00 Yamaha Vino airsal 70cc. 01 ET4 (wrecked). 67 Lambretta Vega125. 48 Beam Doodlebug Super. 1915 Board Track replica 80cc Joined: UTC Posts: 1352 Location: Monterey Ca.	UTC quote jimc wrote: <cringe> Ride the damn things - want to wax? - try the g/f's legs... Well that's fine also... But with two small children and a wife that works whenever I don't there is a lot of time I am stuck in the house looking at my parked GTS.... So it's maintain the scooter or watch telletubbies.

marc UTC details Molto Verboso 06 GTS250. 00 Yamaha Vino airsal 70cc. 01 ET4 (wrecked). 67 Lambretta Vega125. 48 Beam Doodlebug Super. 1915 Board Track replica 80cc Joined: UTC Posts: 1352 Location: Monterey Ca.
marc Molto Verboso 06 GTS250. 00 Yamaha Vino airsal 70cc. 01 ET4 (wrecked). 67 Lambretta Vega125. 48 Beam Doodlebug Super. 1915 Board Track replica 80cc Joined: UTC Posts: 1352 Location: Monterey Ca.	UTC quote Lifer wrote: Turtle Wax has a product called ICE I want to try. It is a clear liquid polish I saw it advertised on Sky... but can't find it in Germany I tried ICE on my BMW, the Meguiars NXT 2.0 is better.

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macca 66 Member PX 200 Joined: UTC Posts: 40 Location: United Kingdom	UTC quote Collinite 476 is supposed to be the best there is, but its £25 for a small tin. Everyone i ve spoken to about it wont use anything else

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I looked Turtle Wax Ice up on the internet and found that ATU has the exclusive distribution in Germany.

So I went over and got a bottle for 15 Euros ($21.00)

I went home, washed with hot water, Mr. Proper (Mr. Clean) and Palmolive Dish soap using a micro fiber cloth. I didn't rise the scooters since the hot water basically dried within a minute.

Then I applied the ICE with the sponge applicator... first one scooter... then the other - to everything except headlight, tires and seat. Made sure it dried for about five minutes... and then used the micro fiber cloth (included) to wipe off the ICE. Total time for the GTS 300 and BVC 500 was about 30 minutes start to finish including wash

WOW!! FANTASTIC!!

If you haven't tried ICE, you don't know what you are missing!!

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Lifer wrote:

It is fantastic stuff, but I still recommend using a carnuba wax a few times a year for a hard base layer. ICE is great for the weekly stuff and its awesome to have use it on the plastic and chrome.

175mws UTC details The Host with the Toast Joined: UTC Posts: 7199 Location: SoCal
175mws The Host with the Toast Joined: UTC Posts: 7199 Location: SoCal	UTC quote Why wax Why wax when you can ride? I only have waxed my bike once or twice in 3 years and it looks great, I do clean it with water and soap every few month or so.

snoozie UTC details Hooked GTS 300 Joined: UTC Posts: 136 Location: San Diego (Oceanside)
snoozie Hooked GTS 300 Joined: UTC Posts: 136 Location: San Diego (Oceanside)	UTC quote "...washed with hot water..." If you live anywhere road-salt or other like stuff gets on you bike, avoid hot water when washing...it makes the stuff even more corrosive. Waxing tip: go to you local fabric store and buy a few yards of white cotton flannel. Take it home and wash it once...then tear off what you need when it comes time to wax. softest stuff around, and cheap.

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Menhir Moderator Joined: UTC Posts: 5145 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa.	UTC quote What I really like about ICE is that you don't have to spend a lot of time trying to wipe dried paste residue from around badges, between chrome letters, or other rough areas. It really cuts down on waxing time so you have more riding time.

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Wayne B Banned Joined: UTC Posts: 2919	UTC quote You want to know the best stuff to use and how to use it? Go here www.autopia.org Just about anything you're going to get in the Automotive Dept in a store is consumer junk. Wayne B

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